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Starting/Battery woes..

https://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/threads/91737/startingbattery-woes

AyeBee ·

Bought a new 6v battery, installed into car - get headlights/radio/wipers/dash lights - but only a click when I try to start.

Cleaned all connections, earth point on body for earth strap, no change. Just a a click.

However, car will start and then run if I jump start it with a spare 12v battery i have here. I then drive the car around for 30mins or so, come home, try and start after shutting down - just the faint click again.

What are other things I should consider looking at to fault find?

The new battery is a Supercharge (model N03) 6V 250CCA, is this not enough?

ian.mezz ·

Is the new battery fully charged
???starter motor or starter motor bush in gearbox worn.

Craig Torrens ·

do you have the earth strap from the gearbox to the chassis ? Is it in good condition ?

AyeBee ·

Thanks gents, will have a look - worst case I'll take it to a auto elec.

Cheers

Lucky Phil ·

ian.mezz wrote:Is the new battery fully charged
A new battery will only be half charged at best.
Considering the low voltage to start with, any voltage drops in the system will be more noticeable. I would give the battery a really good charging before anything else.

AyeBee ·

Thanks Phil - it's on charge as we speak, crossing fingers that's the cause.

AyeBee ·

Battery fully charged, still doesn't start. Was hoping it was as simple as that.

Time to start looking at starter/solenoid and look for this other earth strap.

Sides ·

OK, I'll be the one that asks the dumb question... it's definitely a 6V system in the car still, yeah ???

AyeBee ·

I hope, it's what the previous owner told me it was. My first VW so not really sure what Im looking at, it needed a jump start to drive it home when I bought it.

How do I check whether its 12 or 6 to make sure?

Sides ·

Ahh, right - fair enuff.

A decent pic of the engine bay we might be able to tell... if it's been obviously converted to 12V with a different generator or regulator setup for example.

Best way to be 100% is to get the engine running (jump start it if needed) and then measure the Voltage coming out of the Generator... basically get a multimeter and measure the Voltage between the main charging cable (D+) and Earth.

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btw - if it is a 12V converted car... giving it 6V I'm surprised the starter would even go click !!!

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AyeBee ·

Just checked, got a 6 volt coil so guessing its definetly a 6 volt system.

Thanks for everyones help, its booked into an auto electrician for tomorrow morning - will let them sort out the issue.

Sides ·

Hmm, yeah - 6V coil doesn't necessarily mean a 6V system, but no worries - your auto sparky should be able to sort it out for ya !!!

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ratty 63 ·

my money is on a worn starter and/or bush.... 👍

R 🙂

AyeBee ·

Engine bay

ratty 63 ·

yep - 6 Volt. 👍

R 🙂

AyeBee ·

Ta.

AyeBee ·

ratty 63 wrote:my money is on a worn starter and/or bush.... 👍

R 🙂
BINGO!! Was a worn starter.

Sides ·

Cool - good you've gotten it sorted !!!

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ratty 63 ·

Great news. 😁

R 🙂

AyeBee ·

Wouldn't read about it though... driving home from the auto electrician this afternoon - accelerator cable went, car had to be towed. Ah the joys!

ratty 63 ·

Should have just grabbed the spare one from under the seat and fitted it right there and then.... you do have a spare one don't you? 😁

It wouldn't be a VW if it didn't test you from time to time....

Perhaps it would be a good time to invest in a spare clutch cable... I have a spare of both accelerator and clutch cables stashed under the back seat of my '63 Bug, along with a spare set of points and a spare condenser. Haven't needed any of them yet... but that is only because I have them with me 😂

R 🙂