I hate them, They are obtrusive, and not required.
I get a renewal notice. I pay it, and the car is registered. What has the label got to do with it?
At the moment you get a renewal with a label. You can stick the label on without paying it, so the label is no proof of payment.
What are your thoughts?
esevwbits 路
yeh scrap them. crap idea. and never colour co-ordinates with my vehicle 馃
55oval 路
Not really a concern to me, I just whack it on and forget it till next year.
shaihulud 路
Labels were removed as a cost saving measure and because the police do not need them, without consulting the public here in WA.
There is a large and growing movement to have them returned.
People are saying that there would be prepared to pay a few dollars to have a label. I would.
Now when looking at (kicking tyres) or buying a second hand car you can't see if it is registered and for how long without seeing the rego papers, at the very beginning. That is a real pain.
I want to see the labels returned ASAP. I have the cut out number of an old label on my windscreen as a reminder.
The removal was done by Troy Buswell (of chair sniffing infamy) the Minister for Transport. It was just another one of his stupid decisions. The man is an idiot. We would be well rid of him.
helbus 路
But because the label is issued without payment, so how is that proof of rego?
68AutoBug 路
helbus wrote:WA, SA and NSW are eliminating rego labels.
I hope they do this in Vic soon.
I hate them, They are obtrusive, and not required.
I get a renewal notice. I pay it, and the car is registered. What has the label got to do with it?
At the moment you get a renewal with a label. You can stick the label on without paying it, so the label is no proof of payment.
What are your thoughts?
Yes,
You only need to write the receipt number on the label so it really doesn't mean much..
I have tinted My windows in My beetle apart from the 1/4 windows as I put the rego label on one of them
I was thinking of cutting a hole in the tint [when i do it] to fit the label in... Now I won't have to...
I suppose they do remind You of the rego month...
but My Mail never gets lost, and the 3rd party insurance renewal always comes too..
Maybe You can have one if you want one... lol
and they could be just made as a cheap removeable sticker
rather than the costly way they do it now..
they are just a reminder or token these days as I always pay My rego and insurance on line.. and write the receipt number in it..
its just that they are worthless as far as the Police are concerned
they just put Your rego number in their computer..
I just remembered why they are on the rego paper.. lol
so if You go to a rego office [no one does now] they stick it in a machine... but as that is now optional.. its made the expensive sticker obsolete..
so a cheap sticker in the color of the month.. lol
and not be compulsory..
LEE
Now if Julia could think things over like that before making them law... lol
AA003 路
It will make it easier to swap number plates between vehicles.
silver 路
Number plate recognition technology is very sophisticated so they are no longer necessary. its waste of money having them
Governor 路
If your a mechanic and after working on a customers vehicle you will now need to check if the vehicle is registered before you can take it for a test drive.
Also you cant just hop into a mates car to pick stuff up from the shops as you cant see if its registered.
They send the renewal notice 2 months before its due knowing you will put it on the fridge, they then hope you forget so they can fine you for driving unreg, dont think this is a money saving idea, its a money making idea for the government.
vw54 路
only going to make it easier for the shonks
matberry 路
I think it sounds rediculous. In Qld we don't get the label until we pay, no label, no rego.....easy.
As Birch said, it'll make it easy for the crooks
AA003 路
silver wrote:Number plate recognition technology is very sophisticated so they are no longer necessary.
Only for the police.
1303Steve 路
Hi
I find the new labels are really good they come off easily each year I always turn small dog ear in the corner to make it easier, how bad were the old ones that you had to soak in water and then wipe down to remove the gum behind them otherwise they would craze.
I think this is as sensible as not needing a rego check on new cars for 5 years.
Maybe they want people to buy cars that are unregistered and then get caught driving so that they can be fined.
Steve
Uber Kafer 路
Its a con. The pollies say that it saves money. But the cost was already built into the annual registration.
A major downside to this change is that people will be inadvertantly driving cars that are not registered, and that registration includes third party personal insurance. So there will be accidents, people will be seriously injured, and there will no insurance cover. Imagine that, you get cleaned up by someone who has forgotten to pay their rego, you have a serious long term disability, and no-one to pay for it. Never, zilch, nada.
All well and good if you manage your own rego, its other people you need to be scared of.
modulus 路
I look at rego labels to find out what year a car was 1st registered; in Vic we do not even have to write the receipt number, so the label is no proof of current registration.
waveman1500 路
I've already experienced this, SA made the switch on July 1st 2011. My Beetle got one of the very last rego stickers, with expiry 31st June 2012. My other car was registered afterwards and hence has no sticker. I do like not having the sticker on the car, as it gives the windscreen a cleaner look. However, as mentioned the extra effort of checking whether a car is registered or not can be annoying. There is an EzyReg smartphone app for both Android and iPhone which lets you check the make, body style, colour and registration expiry date from the rego number. The same info is available online.
69bug 路
just put it on the quater window, no biggie aha
vlad01 路
AA003 wrote:It will make it easier to swap number plates between vehicles.
lol
vlad01 路
waveman1500 wrote:I've already experienced this, SA made the switch on July 1st 2011. My Beetle got one of the very last rego stickers, with expiry 31st June 2012. My other car was registered afterwards and hence has no sticker. I do like not having the sticker on the car, as it gives the windscreen a cleaner look. However, as mentioned the extra effort of checking whether a car is registered or not can be annoying. There is an EzyReg smartphone app for both Android and iPhone which lets you check the make, body style, colour and registration expiry date from the rego number. The same info is available online.
they say on the rta website you can check any rego number to see if its current. so there is no problems checking if the car you are buying is rego'd or not. Sounds easy enough.
personally I don't care much but less stickers the better. so far the only sticker I have is that one. The orange ones look the shitest 馃ゲ
vlad01 路
modulus wrote:I look at rego labels to find out what year a car was 1st registered; in Vic we do not even have to write the receipt number, so the label is no proof of current registration.
most people I know forget to put on the currect sticker and drive around with 1 or 2 year old stickers. No probs, cops don't even notice anyway.
waveman1500 路
69bug wrote:just put it on the quater window, no biggie aha
I do have it on the quarter window on the bug, it's my other cars which used to have it on the windscreen.
amazeer 路
I have never ever looked at a rego label before I got in to drive a car, either friends car, loan car, work car, hire car. In fact this year I got in my car for 2 weeks after rego expiry before I found the renewal notice still in envelope in the spare room in a pile of papers. Its bad enough having to get to a mechanic for a pink slip let alone having to go to the rta, stand around for an hour waiting for some arsehole rta person to scowl and carry on like they are doing me a favour swapping several hundred in return for a sticker with a receipt to prove rego. I havent been in for a simple renewal since you were able to pay online and write your own receipt number on. I dont think it will make much difference to anything and I am happy not to have to clean the window each year. Actually, if they dont hit my property I dont really care if others drive unreg.
The recognition cameras are awesome and can check thousands of plates an hour. You'll get caught if you regularly use an unreg car. When they first came into play there were so many unreg cars on the road they were issuing fines all day. If only they had some facial recognition cameras to get all the unlicenced drivers.
When I got my latest car the rego had expired by a few days. The dealer I got it off gave me a filled out new registration form instead of a transfer form. The forms are almost identical with the new rego one having more info on it. I couldnt reason with the guy that everything he needed to know was on the form already filled in. So I had to go away and get my wifes signature on the transfer form, wait in line again. They gave me a label, I walked out... to find it had the expired date on it. Back in, wait in line again.
byronbus 路
Great idea...
How will it make it easier for shonks?
How does a rego sticker tell you if a car is registered, you can still have a sticker and not be registered...
Swapping plates wont be easier, the police use their computer, even the parking rangers use their computer, wrong plates on wrong car will still be picked up...
Sticker doesnt remind me to pay my rego, most people with multiple cars know when their rego is due, unless your loaded, most people budget for it and know when its coming...
SuperOwen 路
Anyone who complains about not having rego stickers any more is a whingy old coot.
1303Steve 路
Hi
OK with plate recognition thing and no sticker, if you say had 2 white beetles apart from someone physically comparing chassis numbers and engine numbers assigned to that number plate who would know. If they are going to rely on big brother methods that's what might happen.
Steve
waveman1500 路
1303Steve wrote:Hi
OK with plate recognition thing and no sticker, if you say had 2 white beetles apart from someone physically comparing chassis numbers and engine numbers assigned to that number plate who would know. If they are going to rely on big brother methods that's what might happen.
Steve
That could just as easily happen with a sticker on, so it really makes no difference. Old cars don't have their VIN in the windscreen, so there's no way of checking without opening the car. Not to mention the fact that before 1989, the motor reg in SA didn't even record body/VIN numbers anyway! They only relied on engine numbers. So, unless you get pulled over and the police are suspicious enough to check your engine number, nobody would ever know. If the police are checking this, they can very easily look your car up on their computer rather than having to look at a sticker.
Uber Kafer 路
SuperOwen wrote:Anyone who complains about not having rego stickers any more is a whingy old coot.
Troll behaviour is always intended to provoke and offend and is taken as offensive and generally contributes nothing to the discussion.
Having and expressing concern about the broader implications of an ill concieved govt policy change to a larger user-group than ones self is not usually a whinge, or the exclusive right of 'old' people, its about integrity.
Clown.
Joel 路
I'm surprised there is so much objection to it, I reckon it's a great idea as the rego stickers now are pretty much redundant anyway.
I've been guilty of not swapping mine on occasion.
Fact is nearly everyone now carries a mobile phone with internet access so it can be checked at anytime.
It just took me less than 30 secs on the RTA website to punch in my plate on:
It tells everything that is on my rego sticker plus more like who my greenslip is with and when it expires, any engineers certs, concessions etc.....
The stickers are just a nuisance, good riddance I say.
vlad01 路
byronbus wrote:Great idea...
How will it make it easier for shonks?
How does a rego sticker tell you if a car is registered, you can still have a sticker and not be registered...
Swapping plates wont be easier, the police use their computer, even the parking rangers use their computer, wrong plates on wrong car will still be picked up...
Sticker doesnt remind me to pay my rego, most people with multiple cars know when their rego is due, unless your loaded, most people budget for it and know when its coming...
not if its the same model and color of car. I know a few people that have done that and have been driving a "different" car with "wrong" plates for 10 years + lol highly illegal but it just shows how lop hole can be exploited.
vlad01 路
Joel wrote:I'm surprised there is so much objection to it, I reckon it's a great idea as the rego stickers now are pretty much redundant anyway.
I've been guilty of not swapping mine on occasion.
Fact is nearly everyone now carries a mobile phone with internet access so it can be checked at anytime.
It just took me less than 30 secs on the RTA website to punch in my plate on:
It tells everything that is on my rego sticker plus more like who my greenslip is with and when it expires, any engineers certs, concessions etc.....
The stickers are just a nuisance, good riddance I say.
I just checked mine. says I have a fastback lol. Suddenly I have also weight reduction 馃槀 do they actually weigh the cars or just make up some bogus figures for the database?
At least they got the color right 馃
vlad01 路
tried my bomb, only works for NSW cars. I feel ripped off 馃檨
SuperOwen 路
Uber Kafer wrote:
SuperOwen wrote:Anyone who complains about not having rego stickers any more is a whingy old coot.
Troll behaviour is always intended to provoke and offend and is taken as offensive and generally contributes nothing to the discussion.
Having and expressing concern about the broader implications of an ill concieved govt policy change to a larger user-group than ones self is not usually a whinge, or the exclusive right of 'old' people, its about integrity.
Clown.
It wasn't trolling, just a simple statement of opinion. I should apologise for my use of "old" but I stand by my comment about whingy coots!!
There is no reason for having rego stickers anymore that outweighs the positive aspects of eliminating them. Unnecessary things should be eliminated, like for example, old people.
馃槀
Lucky Phil 路
1303Steve wrote:how bad were the old ones that you had to soak in water and then wipe down to remove the gum behind them otherwise they would craze.
Your'e showing your age there, Steve.
I'd forgotten about them!
matberry 路
So Steve is OLD. And Super Owen wants to elimimate the old.......mmmmm I remember water float windscreen stickers
Question, Super Owen, do you drive a strut beetle?...........
Uber Kafer 路
SuperOwen wrote:Unnecessary things should be eliminated, like for example, old people.
馃槀
Troll / Ar$ehole.... interchangeable terms I guess.
But generally, people who think that just cos their lifestyle doesnt need something then nobody else needs it really cant complain when the govt brings down a law that discriminates against them as a minority group. And it will happen, guaranteed.
Many comments on this thread are on that basis, you assume that everyone else in Australia is fully up to date with everything techno, and has fully blown internet 24hrs a day, and has a massive vee dub supply shop with excellent mechanics just around the corner. Well thats crap, and typical of very young and arrogant, or city-centric people who just havent got out and about much.
Its pretty amusing to have a view into this little fishbowl sometimes I can tell you.
Lucky Phil 路
Uber Kafer wrote:Its a con. The pollies say that it saves money. But the cost was already built into the annual registration.
A major downside to this change is that people will be inadvertantly driving cars that are not registered, and that registration includes third party personal insurance. So there will be accidents, people will be seriously injured, and there will no insurance cover. Imagine that, you get cleaned up by someone who has forgotten to pay their rego, you have a serious long term disability, and no-one to pay for it. Never, zilch, nada.
Yes, It's a con.
You don't even need to forget to reregister your car.
A coupla years ago I thought, "hang on, Iv'e just paid the Insurance, how 'bout the rego?
One phonecall later, and the rego nazis said" oh yes, you have been flagged to not recieve any reminders!!!!!!!!!!
But they would not say why this had happened!
This could happen to you! And you will be responsible!
I got away with it.
You may not.
Whenever I reregister a car these days I write the expiry date on a small sticker and put it where I can see it when I drive.
On the upside, the jackboot brigade are no longer looking at cars.
They are sitting in their plodmobiles and waiting for the machine that goes BING to tell them when to go to work!
All you need is a nice shiny current license plate to get by.
All well and good if you manage your own rego, its other people you need to be scared of.
Uber Kafer 路
I must confess, the main reason I'm annoyed at this change is because they have already introduced it in WA, and I now have to keep an eye on the rego for 4 cars and 2 vespa scooters. We dont have periodical rego checks in WA so if one of our cars goes out of rego it will be a pain in the proverbial.
But my comment about people being inadvertently unregistered in far greater numbers is already happening here. A fact not being reported in the pollies promo spiel I bet.
SuperOwen 路
matberry wrote:Question, Super Owen, do you drive a strut beetle?...........
Actually I walk and use public transport. Saves on rego costs.
byronbus 路
Bit boring if you own two of the same cars, same colour etc... but each to their own...
I remember 10 years ago, i legally changed my vwyoot plates from my 75 bay ute to 65 split ute, a mate who is a security guard rang me because he heard over the radio the cops running my plate and discussing the different car they were on... I guess it is a bit different in a small town, cops know when i change my undies, as well as rego...
blutopless2 路
think what a lot of people are forgetting here is that we are relying more and more on police technology or rta technology to keep track of what is registered and what is not. There is no secondary system to allow me to check if a car is registered. Sure they can put the sticker on the window, this does not prove its registered... but i would be asking for the reciepts etc for proof.
What if the rta computers are down? what if the cops system is down??
I got caught with this many years ago...
we purchased a car and about a month later i was pulled over by the cops in it for a licence check etc... they checked the rego... told me the car was unregistered. fined me on the spot $500 and took the plates off the car... i argued that it was registered as it had the sticker on the window and i had the paperwork from the car yard... Their system showed car was unregistered so bad luck.
I went to Vicroads the next day (that's a story in itself but anyway....) and got a letter stating that the car was in fact registered. Took the letter and the fine to the cop station to retrieve the plates and the copper just looked at the letter, shrugged and handed me the plates... fiddled on computer and deleted the fine.. i got a statement from them to say the fine was cancelled etc (no i dont trust them lol)
Turns out their registration system was down at the time they ran the plates of my car. Copper told me that if ANYONE had their plates entered at that particular time it would've said "unregistered vehicle"
So I think there definitely needs to be a secondary check that we can do that is simple... I think the idea of only getting the label once the payment is made is probably the better way to go.
Yogie 路
In Queensland you do not get the label until you have paid the registration. The labels are colour coded as well. For any given year it is colour X and the next year is colour Y etc. The month is a big font so the police can see at a glance if the colour is wrong for the year we are in and, if the colour is correct, if the month is still OK.
I must say the labels don't bother me and it is an easy way to know if a car is registered or not but Qld is also looking at doing away with them. I find it a handy reminder to be able to look at the label to know which car is coming up for rego.
Yogie
matberry 路
blutopless2 wrote:So I think there definitely needs to be a secondary check that we can do that is simple... I think the idea of only getting the label once the payment is made is probably the better way to go.