Many many thanks to Wes (bajawes), for letting us look over his baja on \Saturday.
THIS IS ONE AWESOME BAJA
Anyways, thanks again, we had a great time
Matt:beer:beer:beer
worth many beers
mattie182 ·
Aussieveedubbers · General Chit Chat
Thanx Wes
https://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/threads/9721/thanx-wes
Baja Wes ·
Thanks Matt. I figure if your visiting from as far away as Rocky the least I can do is take you for a spin and show you the great flexibility of the V6.
mattie182 ·
I have sceptic up here in Rocky about the capabilities of your baja. N ow I can set them straight, this is one great VW
KruizinKombi ·
I agree, its awesome!! :thumb
And quick!!! :o
And quick!!! :o
Andy42 ·
Well i have not seen it for myself,YET, but I can not see how you can beat technology. It is the only way to go to get reliabilty, performance and still get good fuel economy.
Its a Top Job.
Its a Top Job.
Baja Wes ·
So Matt, who's my sceptic and what were they sceptical about? :repuke
😀
😀
Brad ·
Ok so the vehicle can go a few places, now if we can just work on the driver. Then we would have a none buggy owner who could or at least try to get up hills we find 😀😀
And yes I am going to keep bitching till you take your street baja up the hill you said you could drive up in your very own yard.
And yes I am going to keep bitching till you take your street baja up the hill you said you could drive up in your very own yard.
type3kid ·
are you challenging him brad????😀
Baja Wes ·
Brad, if I could understand what you were typing, I might get offended :repuke
Your just jealous at how easily I can go up all the hills. It makes your street hilux look like crap. Your buggy is off the road broken 80% of the time, so what does that say about your driving skills :vader
😀 😀 😀
Matt's got a buggy, so I'm sure he can unbiasedly compare the V6 baja, and his Suby buggies offroad ability.:thumb
[Edited on 25-8-2003 by Baja Wes]
Your just jealous at how easily I can go up all the hills. It makes your street hilux look like crap. Your buggy is off the road broken 80% of the time, so what does that say about your driving skills :vader
😀 😀 😀
Matt's got a buggy, so I'm sure he can unbiasedly compare the V6 baja, and his Suby buggies offroad ability.:thumb
[Edited on 25-8-2003 by Baja Wes]
Mad Manx ·
I think all us viewers are gonna need pictures as to how this turns out:vader
GO THE CHALLENGE WES!!!!:thumb
GO THE CHALLENGE WES!!!!:thumb
Baja Wes ·
well brad will have to fix his car first. Currently his brakes aren't working. Last outing he managed to drive into a tree (from a stop start), which bent his front bar. He also got his bashplate caught on the subura and damaged it too.
An outing before that he broke both his frame horns.
An outing before that he broke his coil off his fan shroud, broke his fuel pump, and done a lot of damaged to his pan.
I don't think brads buggy would last long enough to be up for a challenge
:vader
😀 😀 😀 😀
An outing before that he broke both his frame horns.
An outing before that he broke his coil off his fan shroud, broke his fuel pump, and done a lot of damaged to his pan.
I don't think brads buggy would last long enough to be up for a challenge
:vader
😀 😀 😀 😀
mattie182 ·
You cant compare my buggy to your baja. But my buggy still does the job for me!!!!.I just need to drive accordingly
Baja Wes ·
Yeah I know, I haven't been in your buggy 😀You cant compare my buggy to your baja
That's why I said you could compare the differences 😉
mattie182 ·
There is no real comparison.........
Your sceptics are sceptic about the capabilities of a baja, and the V6 is too heavy (apparently)
But I would like to c any VW that can keep up. Both on and off-road
Your sceptics are sceptic about the capabilities of a baja, and the V6 is too heavy (apparently)
But I would like to c any VW that can keep up. Both on and off-road
Baja Wes ·
Sceptics like that are quite funny. They have absolutely no idea but are quite happy to critisize others :pukemattie182 wrote:Your sceptics are sceptic about the capabilities of a baja, and the V6 is too heavy (apparently)
Brad ·
Sniff Sniff, I can smell a can of WOOP ASS about to be opened. 😀
Me and my Buggy are more than happy to come out and assist in the destruction of you street baja. Just make sure you keep your bonnet shut 😎
I will back my Buggy against your Baja ANYTIME you like off road.
For now lets just think back to last time we went out and played. I recall a hill with not one, but two buggies at the top of it and not a Baja in site ... Your right your baja kicks ass NOT.
Yeah I break a few things. all part of the fun. I always get home under my own power though....
So lets go play... Where do you want it ? Water ? Sand? Bush? Mud ? you can ever pick the Offroad venue ...
Long live the Buggy I say.....
As for mattie 182 and his feelings of "But I would like to c any VW that can keep up. Both on and off-road" He is more than welcome to come watch as we play.
Now let me think .... how many things has your Baja done Off Road that my Buggy can't ... now let me count 1.2.3.4.5....... oh that’s right, ZERO, NIL, NITCH, NOTHING, ZIP NOT A ONE.
Now how many things has my Buggy done that your Baja has been scared of ... mmmm 1.2.3.4....... at least 4 and that is without thinking real hard.
Now if want to talk speed offraod then I am also happy to accommodate you. You can pick any Inland Fraser track you like and we will go race 😀😀
SO PICK A DATE .... If I get keen I may add brakes to my buggy and fix the bar, but hell I will probably not need em anyway .....:vader
Me and my Buggy are more than happy to come out and assist in the destruction of you street baja. Just make sure you keep your bonnet shut 😎
I will back my Buggy against your Baja ANYTIME you like off road.
For now lets just think back to last time we went out and played. I recall a hill with not one, but two buggies at the top of it and not a Baja in site ... Your right your baja kicks ass NOT.
Yeah I break a few things. all part of the fun. I always get home under my own power though....
So lets go play... Where do you want it ? Water ? Sand? Bush? Mud ? you can ever pick the Offroad venue ...
Long live the Buggy I say.....
As for mattie 182 and his feelings of "But I would like to c any VW that can keep up. Both on and off-road" He is more than welcome to come watch as we play.
Now let me think .... how many things has your Baja done Off Road that my Buggy can't ... now let me count 1.2.3.4.5....... oh that’s right, ZERO, NIL, NITCH, NOTHING, ZIP NOT A ONE.
Now how many things has my Buggy done that your Baja has been scared of ... mmmm 1.2.3.4....... at least 4 and that is without thinking real hard.
Now if want to talk speed offraod then I am also happy to accommodate you. You can pick any Inland Fraser track you like and we will go race 😀😀
SO PICK A DATE .... If I get keen I may add brakes to my buggy and fix the bar, but hell I will probably not need em anyway .....:vader
Andy ·
Just make sure a few spactators get to watch the action!! 😀
Brad ·
No action really, we will arrive at an obstacle Wes will get out and say no way can you drive that, I will get in my Buggy, drive it and spend then next week hanging shit on him.. Simple really.
😀😀
😀😀
Andy ·
Well, at least we can watch you, some conselation I suppose. 🙂
Go the Baja!!
Go the Baja!!
Baja Wes ·
well there's jumping the neighbours drive-way, you wussed out of that.Buggy Brad wrote:Now let me think .... how many things has your Baja done Off Road that my Buggy can't ... now let me count 1.2.3.4.5....... oh that’s right, ZERO, NIL, NITCH, NOTHING, ZIP NOT A ONE.
There's going up the track at rainbow, you wussed out of that.
I have done the hill in my yard, so you can't count that. I didn't do it the day you were over as my gearbox was rebuilt wrong and would jump out of gear when the throttle was used. Not good when you want to go up a steep hill.
The hills you have done that I haven't are, the steep track at mt mee, and the rocky ledge at mount mee. I admit you are awesome, we were all amazed you did it. But it did break your car, so I am glad I didn't do it.
If something is obviously going to damage my car, I won't do it.
You don't get the places you go because your buggy is good, you get there cos you drive like a wanker and don't care if you break stuff. Shows how desperate you are to have bragging rights. 😀
I am happy to go out and have fun. I do almost as many tracks, only heaps easier and heaps more comfortable. My passenger won't end up in hospital with bruised kidneys :thumb
Brad ·
The drive way well wasn't that hard ... be there the weekend I get back hehe
The rainbow track, you mean the one you wally gators went up the wrong way and I said it was not a smart move so I didn't break teh law in order to set a good example.. yeah you got me there, I still say it is stupid to get the club a bad name.
As for Mount Mee, I would hardly call, teh fuel pump dieing and the voltage regulator rattling off a result of driving up the hill which scared you ...:o
Your yard, well you say you have been up that hill but I am yet to see anything but talk and we all know that is cheap. Fix you box and show me how you do it and I will beleive you . Until then Buggy 2 baja 0.
So what tracks do you want to play on ?
How about we head out to cruiser park and play in some of the small tracks they have. SHould be fun. Might even fit the the bash plate before I go.
I don't drive me buggy to damage it I drive it to enjoy it. I never said it gets by without incident I do however firmly support that it will go more places offroad than your street baja, so proove me wrong :repuke:bounce
I'll even bring the camera and catch the glorious event on film for all to see, I would hate to be accused of cheating or willful descruction of a Buggy 😀😎
The rainbow track, you mean the one you wally gators went up the wrong way and I said it was not a smart move so I didn't break teh law in order to set a good example.. yeah you got me there, I still say it is stupid to get the club a bad name.
As for Mount Mee, I would hardly call, teh fuel pump dieing and the voltage regulator rattling off a result of driving up the hill which scared you ...:o
Your yard, well you say you have been up that hill but I am yet to see anything but talk and we all know that is cheap. Fix you box and show me how you do it and I will beleive you . Until then Buggy 2 baja 0.
So what tracks do you want to play on ?
How about we head out to cruiser park and play in some of the small tracks they have. SHould be fun. Might even fit the the bash plate before I go.
I don't drive me buggy to damage it I drive it to enjoy it. I never said it gets by without incident I do however firmly support that it will go more places offroad than your street baja, so proove me wrong :repuke:bounce
I'll even bring the camera and catch the glorious event on film for all to see, I would hate to be accused of cheating or willful descruction of a Buggy 😀😎
Baja Wes ·
Well if your going to discount the rainbow track cos it was illegal, then you'll have to discount the mount mee track as well, as it was clearly signed as prohibited.
I've got photo's and witnesses of me going up the hill in my yard, and so do you, so that cancels that one out.
So that leaves the only track that you've done that I haven't to be the rocky ledge at mount mee. Now since we watched about 4 tough 4WD's from some club try and fail, then dyno try and stop before he broke something, and only you make it but by damaging your car, I think I was smart not to try it.
I will admit you will get your buggy more places than I get my baja. But you will break more parts doing so. The places I do chose to go, I will go more smoothly, and more easily than you :P
Your just jealous 😀 😀 😀
I've got photo's and witnesses of me going up the hill in my yard, and so do you, so that cancels that one out.
So that leaves the only track that you've done that I haven't to be the rocky ledge at mount mee. Now since we watched about 4 tough 4WD's from some club try and fail, then dyno try and stop before he broke something, and only you make it but by damaging your car, I think I was smart not to try it.
I will admit you will get your buggy more places than I get my baja. But you will break more parts doing so. The places I do chose to go, I will go more smoothly, and more easily than you :P
Your just jealous 😀 😀 😀
helterskelter400 ·
"Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics, even if you win your still retarded"
but..
sometimes its good entertainment...
i look forward to the video
both vehicles will have their specialities.
almost any vehicle will go further than another with a driver not worried about risk of breaking things
but..
sometimes its good entertainment...
i look forward to the video
both vehicles will have their specialities.
almost any vehicle will go further than another with a driver not worried about risk of breaking things
Baja Wes ·
Yeah I know, I am proving my own point 😀 It's just me and Brad love stirring each other."Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics, even if you win your still retarded"
Very true, and exactly my point. I've seen stock Gemini's get some amazing places 😀almost any vehicle will go further than another with a driver not worried about risk of breaking things
Brad has car's he buy's cheap, then sells. He doesn't care about them really.
I've had my car since 1995, it has taken me a long time to get it how I want it, and I don't intent to destroy it in a hurry. Who (apart from Brad) could honestly say that if they owned my car that they would thrash it and break it just to keep up with Brad the village idiot. 😀
In all seriousness, I am very impressed with the abilities of my Baja. When I converted to IRS it went heaps better, and now with the V6 there is an even bigger improvement again. With Matt in the car I was showing him how I can go up decent hills at 500rpm, and the engine loves it. It just crawls over stuff and makes it look so easy.
mattie182 ·
As I am yet to go for a drive with Brad, i cannot compare the two.
AS i said, I would like to see a VW go better, and as I havent seen Brad in his buggy, nor driven with him, Wes is the leader....... so far
I also Agree with Wes, that when you own a car so long, the last thing you want to do is break it!!!:P:P
AS i said, I would like to see a VW go better, and as I havent seen Brad in his buggy, nor driven with him, Wes is the leader....... so far
I also Agree with Wes, that when you own a car so long, the last thing you want to do is break it!!!:P:P
manxed69 ·
Wes and Brad,
Lets settle this once and for all at the Frazer Island trip next November. I'm sure Brad, that you can wait until then to beat him.
:P
Lets settle this once and for all at the Frazer Island trip next November. I'm sure Brad, that you can wait until then to beat him.
:P
Brad ·
We can argue all day if you like. Firstly doing either of teh hills at Mt Mee did not break my buggy. Driving fast on the corrigations. Things rattling off don't equate to damage they are simply part of driving offroad.
So you agree my buggy goes more places so therefore it is more capable off road, simple isn't it ?
By teh way I wouldn't trash your street baja offroad, it is a street baja and a show car, it shouldn't be offroad
😀
Keen to get back and come out and play, looking forward to Fraser but we both know there is nothing there that is going to hassle either of us. Maybe Stockton earlier that month is a better place to bet.
So you agree my buggy goes more places so therefore it is more capable off road, simple isn't it ?
By teh way I wouldn't trash your street baja offroad, it is a street baja and a show car, it shouldn't be offroad
😀
Keen to get back and come out and play, looking forward to Fraser but we both know there is nothing there that is going to hassle either of us. Maybe Stockton earlier that month is a better place to bet.
Baja Wes ·
It's funny you call my car a street Baja, when you are the one that went and bought street tyres for your buggy. It's so when you can't make it somewhere you can blame the tyres 😀
I agree, Fraser Island does not have anything difficult on it.
I have nothing to settle anyway. I think we all know Brad drives like a 17 Gemini driver, and has no respect for machinery. So I don't see any need to even respond to his silly challenges :P
Dyno, andrew, and basically everyone else ignores Brad too. They also have more respect for their machinery.
I agree, Fraser Island does not have anything difficult on it.
I have nothing to settle anyway. I think we all know Brad drives like a 17 Gemini driver, and has no respect for machinery. So I don't see any need to even respond to his silly challenges :P
Dyno, andrew, and basically everyone else ignores Brad too. They also have more respect for their machinery.
daz67 ·
Hehehe!!!!!
This is funny......
Quote:
" Who (apart from Brad) could honestly say that if they owned my car that they would thrash it and break it just to keep up with Brad the village idiot. "
If you are giving it(your car) away then I will have a go at it!!!:repuke
Wes's Baja is very cool and driven like Brad drives, it would go everywhere the Buggy goes.
But since I drive a buggy and since I am the other 1 in the Buggy 2, Baja 0 count,
BUGGIES RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is funny......
Quote:
" Who (apart from Brad) could honestly say that if they owned my car that they would thrash it and break it just to keep up with Brad the village idiot. "
If you are giving it(your car) away then I will have a go at it!!!:repuke
Wes's Baja is very cool and driven like Brad drives, it would go everywhere the Buggy goes.
But since I drive a buggy and since I am the other 1 in the Buggy 2, Baja 0 count,
BUGGIES RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mattie182 ·
Hmmmmm.....
In all seriousness, I have met both Wes and Brad, look at both there cars, and can say that they are both very clueded up, and are willing to offer advice and help to almost anyone..
Have a look in Brads shed, I bet he doesnt own half the bggies in their for repairs😉
In all seriousness, I have met both Wes and Brad, look at both there cars, and can say that they are both very clueded up, and are willing to offer advice and help to almost anyone..
Have a look in Brads shed, I bet he doesnt own half the bggies in their for repairs😉
KruizinKombi ·
Bet you he does!!! 😀
Brad ·
I can say I do currently own the 4 buggies in the shed 😀
I would say not long after I get home there will be a few others there for some lovin, also got a Baja in need of some height which is teh first job on the board.
Maybe we could add some off road capability to your Baja Wes as the next job ...😀
I would say not long after I get home there will be a few others there for some lovin, also got a Baja in need of some height which is teh first job on the board.
Maybe we could add some off road capability to your Baja Wes as the next job ...😀
daz67 ·
Can't wait to see the pictures from the trip this weekend.
Make sure you get some tough offroad shots Wes.
Cheers
Make sure you get some tough offroad shots Wes.
Cheers
helterskelter400 ·
1.
2.
and 3. although it beats the 4 wheelers no probs, still relys on them to carry refreshments out & broken bodies home.
(i hope this works)
[Edited on 28-8-2003 by helterskelter400]
2.
and 3. although it beats the 4 wheelers no probs, still relys on them to carry refreshments out & broken bodies home.
(i hope this works)
[Edited on 28-8-2003 by helterskelter400]
Baja Wes ·
I'd much rather be in the sand in my car than on my bike. 26 liters of fuel in the bike didn't help the sand riding either.
helterskelter400 ·
jeepers duude
you're keen going anywhere at all on a dominator, specially with that gear making it tail heavy & having a smmooth tyre on front. - frontend washout city.
get something more dirt orientated & everythings a breeze.
would love to have the $$ to be choosing between a wrf450 and a ktm525 but realities bite.
stayin with the 99xr400 a bit longer yet.
forgot to add.
to trade up in bikes would cost maybe $6.5k. thats a lot of buggies/bajas/vw bits.
[Edited on 29-8-2003 by helterskelter400]
you're keen going anywhere at all on a dominator, specially with that gear making it tail heavy & having a smmooth tyre on front. - frontend washout city.
get something more dirt orientated & everythings a breeze.
would love to have the $$ to be choosing between a wrf450 and a ktm525 but realities bite.
stayin with the 99xr400 a bit longer yet.
forgot to add.
to trade up in bikes would cost maybe $6.5k. thats a lot of buggies/bajas/vw bits.
[Edited on 29-8-2003 by helterskelter400]
Baja Wes ·
I've had XR and KDX's in the past, and they make life easier. But the dominator is better for longer touring, specially with the girlfriend on the back. We would do 500km in a day, and take enough gear for a picnic. You can't put your girlfriend on the back of an XR. Otherwise I woulda bought a Husky TE610 or something cool.
It's only when I went with the DSMRA trail bike club and hit the loose sand / rocky sections that I had trouble. On the open fire roads I could keep up with the real dirt bikes though.
It's only when I went with the DSMRA trail bike club and hit the loose sand / rocky sections that I had trouble. On the open fire roads I could keep up with the real dirt bikes though.
Brad ·
There is a pattern here I think..
Wes's Baja - Nice paint and a bit of a street car for a good offroader.
Wes's Bike - Nice for on road needs a bit less weight to keep up in the hard stuff ..
So it is fair to say your off road car and your off road bike are both token efforts....
😀😀:o:repuke
Wes's Baja - Nice paint and a bit of a street car for a good offroader.
Wes's Bike - Nice for on road needs a bit less weight to keep up in the hard stuff ..
So it is fair to say your off road car and your off road bike are both token efforts....
😀😀:o:repuke
daz67 ·
So Wes,
Where are all the kick ass pictures of your Baja on todays trip??????
Where are all the kick ass pictures of your Baja on todays trip??????
helterskelter400 ·
diff setups for diff purposes.
xr400/wrf/ktm525/buggy = more stress on bigger stuff, less concern on tighter stuff.
dom/ktm640/tt600/xr650/v6baja = less stress on bigger stuff, more care on titer stuff.
no two things will be equal using different rurlers !!!
xr400/wrf/ktm525/buggy = more stress on bigger stuff, less concern on tighter stuff.
dom/ktm640/tt600/xr650/v6baja = less stress on bigger stuff, more care on titer stuff.
no two things will be equal using different rurlers !!!
Brad ·
V6 Baja = Less stress on bigger stuff WTF ???
You mean all those big hills he is scared to go up ???
You mean all those big hills he is scared to go up ???
helterskelter400 ·
it looks like tryin to compare a rangie to a landrover. both good vehicles but they excell in diff areas
any way, in the name of research, when are you going head to head & when will the vid be out
any way, in the name of research, when are you going head to head & when will the vid be out
Brad ·
I think Wes and I have been going head to head ever since we met. He is just yet to win any 😀😀
I am keen to head up to Cruiser Park or Black Duck and see what he can do with his V6 and Mud Tyres. Against my little VW engine and Street tyres he SHOULD woop my ass, but all those who have seen us togeather just know that will never be the case and the Buggy will WOOP HIS ASS... He may have a bigger engine now with more grunt but it is still just a Baja and they will never get close to a buggy for offroad capability.
Do look cool around town, down the local shops and in the rain though 😀:o
Might be a good place for a club run and video shoot :kiss
I am keen to head up to Cruiser Park or Black Duck and see what he can do with his V6 and Mud Tyres. Against my little VW engine and Street tyres he SHOULD woop my ass, but all those who have seen us togeather just know that will never be the case and the Buggy will WOOP HIS ASS... He may have a bigger engine now with more grunt but it is still just a Baja and they will never get close to a buggy for offroad capability.
Do look cool around town, down the local shops and in the rain though 😀:o
Might be a good place for a club run and video shoot :kiss
Brad ·
The Results are ......:repuke:repuke
mattie182 ·
very cool
but i think you have too much time:bounce:bounce:thumb:thumb:P
but i think you have too much time:bounce:bounce:thumb:thumb:P
Jay_1965vw ·
very cool pic brad 🙂
Brad ·
It is a factual reenactment of events which have occurred in the past and are anticipated to occur in the very near future based on statistical evidence provided by past trip reports.
😎😎😎😎😎😎:o:vader
😎😎😎😎😎😎:o:vader
daz67 ·
You have way to much time on your hands....
Brad ·
How do you figure I have to much time on my hands ?
Just so no one gets the wrong idea ...
Just so no one gets the wrong idea ...
Baja Wes ·
The smoke coming out of your exhaust is the only realistic part of your animation 😀
Brad ·
That is not smoke, it is the pull start for my wind up VW engine :o
mattie182 ·
I said it once and Ill say it again
You have too much too much time on your hands
Very funny though:P:thumb:P:thumb😀😉
You have too much too much time on your hands
Very funny though:P:thumb:P:thumb😀😉