Hi volks. At some point in time, I'm gonna have to stop ignoring my (sometimes disturbingly primal) urges and buy myself a Fastback. I want an early one and I'm told that the last of these had discs, four-stud wheels and semi-traling links (which'd be nice, because I see a big-inch Type 4 in its future).
So which model do I want? Is it a 67 or 68 (as I suspect) or have I just described some mythical Type 3 of legend that never really existed?
Also, if anybody has one they don't need any longer...(I have cash and those urges I mentioned).
shaven 路
davodawg wrote:Hi volks. At some point in time, I'm gonna have to stop ignoring my (sometimes disturbingly primal) urges and buy myself a Fastback. I want an early one and I'm told that the last of these had discs, four-stud wheels and semi-traling links (which'd be nice, because I see a big-inch Type 4 in its future).
So which model do I want? Is it a 67 or 68 (as I suspect) or have I just described some mythical Type 3 of legend that never really existed?
Also, if anybody has one they don't need any longer...(I have cash and those urges I mentioned).
hey davo,
mate dont go the poor mans Type 3... they rust. HAHAHAHA
i have a very nice 68 Notch for sale馃樀
cheers matty
davodawg 路
hey davo,
mate dont go the poor mans Type 3... they rust. HAHAHAHA
i have a very nice 68 Notch for sale馃樀
cheers matty [/quote]
Yo Matty. I had a Notch years and years (and years) ago. Liked it, too, but I always reckoned the Fastback was the better looking version.
Got a Kodak of your car (or a link to one)?
Meantime, am I right? Is the 67/68 Notch/Fasty the model to go for?
Joel 路
68 would be the first year of discs from memory, but you'd have to go 69 to get factory IRS, and then 70 was first year of the shark nose fatchicks so your limited to 69 if you want factory disc and IRS but early bumpers.
In saying that though Type 3s are piece of piss to convert to IRS though if you can get the sub-frame from a later car.
VW-VARIANT-L 路
68 automatics have the IRS, but you would have close to zero chance finding one in Australia. Most 68's built in Australia were 5 stud, swing axle, all drum set up.
69's all have 4 stud, IRS and disc brake front in Australia, and still have the early body shape. So this is what you are looking for.
shaven 路
davodawg wrote:hey davo,
mate dont go the poor mans Type 3... they rust. HAHAHAHA
i have a very nice 68 Notch for sale馃樀
cheers matty
Yo Matty. I had a Notch years and years (and years) ago. Liked it, too, but I always reckoned the Fastback was the better looking version.
Got a Kodak of your car (or a link to one)?
Meantime, am I right? Is the 67/68 Notch/Fasty the model to go for? [/quote]
mate as the lads said... 68/69 is a good year then you go into the not so skinny version of the Type 3馃槀
what are you actually looking for? resto? rust? rat? daily? regoed? etc etc
PM me your email... ill send you links to the 68/70... But be careful you may go back to a Notch馃憤
do you want links to both?
davodawg 路
mate as the lads said... 68/69 is a good year then you go into the not so skinny version of the Type 3馃槀
what are you actually looking for? resto? rust? rat? daily? regoed? etc etc
PM me your email... ill send you links to the 68/70... But be careful you may go back to a Notch馃憤
do you want links to both? [/quote]
Hi mate. ccording to the forum rules, I don't have enough posts to PM you. But I'd dearly love the links you were talking about. Can you PM me?
shaven 路
davodawg wrote:mate as the lads said... 68/69 is a good year then you go into the not so skinny version of the Type 3馃槀
what are you actually looking for? resto? rust? rat? daily? regoed? etc etc
PM me your email... ill send you links to the 68/70... But be careful you may go back to a Notch馃憤
do you want links to both?
Hi mate. ccording to the forum rules, I don't have enough posts to PM you. But I'd dearly love the links you were talking about. Can you PM me? [/quote]
PM sent mate
REDKG 路
buy a 67, 12 volt , old style bumpers and indicators, last of the drums allround.. The best looking fasty. if you want to 'modernise' it , easy to convert to front discs , just bolt on late model spindles and disc brakes (front) and 4 stud rear drums. The 73 discs were bigger again, used on the vw/porsche 914, but hard to find, 69-72 more common and repro parts available. Again the hi-back front seats up to 72 also slot straight in. The later front seats have a third mount. Again converting the rear end to irs , much is bolt on but the rear engine mount requires some welding.The early wiper arms used a tapered shaft and would become loose,the later models the arm had a nut to hold the wiper arm on, but they reversed the arm orientation. The "68 only" wiper arms and spindles bolt straight into an early model.Anyway without 'bagging' the beetle the type 3 was a far nicer vehicle to drive and more room .Woul
d happily cruise on the freeway at 75mph.
best of luck
dragsters for life 路
buy a fattie much better driver
empi 路
Ok, 68 is the first year of 4 stud and 12V, in Ausrtralia there are a few 68s that have the 5 stud brakes but they are few and far between and an australian quirk.
68 will be a swing axle rear end. A 69 will have IRS. 68 will also be the first of fuel flap on the front D/s guard.
69 will also have a different air vent knobs on the dash to a >68.
This being said a type 3 can be easily converted to disc with ALL bolt on parts from a later model (discs, dual circuit master cyl, etc) also a 12v conversion isnt hard to do either, all of which i have done to my notch (1965).
My advice find the car (year + shape) you like and convert.
shaven 路
dragsters for life wrote:buy a fattie much better driver
or a 68馃槝
davodawg 路
Hey out there. Thanks to everybody who's weighed in on this debate. Seems like any early Fasty will give me the look I want and I can modify the underneath bits to make it do what I want.
Happy to listen to all suggestions and, in the meantime, just wanted to say I appreciate the info given up so far.
dragsters for life 路
notice how its all the type 3 heads that posted, all a little bias too
Joel 路
Well I certainly don't fit into that category.
The only one I ever owned was bought for the rear end and gearbox then scrapped 馃槈
I know, shun the murderous outsider 馃槀
subimanx 路
Get the best.......get a 411...more doors,bigger engine bigger boot area etc.....馃憤馃憤
vlad01 路
subimanx wrote:Get the best.......get a 411...more doors,bigger engine bigger boot area etc.....馃憤馃憤
ummm, they don't exist in Australia. Well as far as I know when I tried looking for one to buy when I was a young teen, oh how could we ever live without the internet today! Apparently in ignorance in the old days 馃槀
shaven 路
dragsters for life wrote:notice how its all the type 3 heads that posted, all a little bias too
christopher... some people just don't appreciate real beauty馃槀馃槝
subimanx 路
vlad01 wrote:
subimanx wrote:Get the best.......get a 411...more doors,bigger engine bigger boot area etc.....馃憤馃憤
ummm, they don't exist in Australia. Well as far as I know when I tried looking for one to buy when I was a young teen, oh how could we ever live without the internet today! Apparently in ignorance in the old days 馃槀
They must exist....I have one and know others that have them....馃
shaven 路
subimanx wrote:
vlad01 wrote:
subimanx wrote:Get the best.......get a 411...more doors,bigger engine bigger boot area etc.....馃憤馃憤
ummm, they don't exist in Australia. Well as far as I know when I tried looking for one to buy when I was a young teen, oh how could we ever live without the internet today! Apparently in ignorance in the old days 馃槀
They must exist....I have one and know others that have them....馃
BOOM
empi 路
shaven wrote:
subimanx wrote:
vlad01 wrote:
subimanx wrote:Get the best.......get a 411...more doors,bigger engine bigger boot area etc.....馃憤馃憤
ummm, they don't exist in Australia. Well as far as I know when I tried looking for one to buy when I was a young teen, oh how could we ever live without the internet today! Apparently in ignorance in the old days 馃槀
I can think of at least 3 in Vic
They must exist....I have one and know others that have them....馃
BOOM
that_tall_guy 路
subimanx wrote:
vlad01 wrote:
subimanx wrote:Get the best.......get a 411...more doors,bigger engine bigger boot area etc.....馃憤馃憤
ummm, they don't exist in Australia. Well as far as I know when I tried looking for one to buy when I was a young teen, oh how could we ever live without the internet today! Apparently in ignorance in the old days 馃槀
They must exist....I have one and know others that have them....馃
I know of one here in Baulkham Hills. Its just sitting under a cover in a carport waiting for the old lady that owns it to finally give up and sell it to me. 馃槈 Only a matter of time...
MickH 路
yeh the 411's are the go,not the 412 rubbish!!! LOL
dragsters for life 路
vlad01 wrote:
subimanx wrote:Get the best.......get a 411...more doors,bigger engine bigger boot area etc.....馃憤馃憤
ummm, they don't exist in Australia. Well as far as I know when I tried looking for one to buy when I was a young teen, oh how could we ever live without the internet today! Apparently in ignorance in the old days 馃槀
theres one for sale is SA and it has been for a while
cruiser 路
I know of a 411 wagon in WA too. Not running no motor.
dragsters for life 路
hey adam what about glennyc s fasty? late body shape but dated a 69 and its not the only 69 i seen with the fatty nose
vlad01 路
subimanx wrote:
vlad01 wrote:
subimanx wrote:Get the best.......get a 411...more doors,bigger engine bigger boot area etc.....馃憤馃憤
ummm, they don't exist in Australia. Well as far as I know when I tried looking for one to buy when I was a young teen, oh how could we ever live without the internet today! Apparently in ignorance in the old days 馃槀
They must exist....I have one and know others that have them....馃
As far as I know there were some small handful imported here and there but not officially by vw? I believe by other dealers other than vw??
the official VW record haven't mentioned any being ever imported. Someone got any info to prove otherwise? would love to track some cars down for myself
MickH 路
They were private imports.馃憤
empi 路
dragsters for life wrote:hey adam what about glennyc s fasty? late body shape but dated a 69 and its not the only 69 i seen with the fatty nose
Vws year starts in August,
GlennyC 路
wait, so mine is a 69? I'm confused... haha.
Burrelli 路
Your car will be a 70 model if made from August 69 to the end of July 70. That is why it has has a 0 as the 3rd digit in the chassis number. If it was a 69 it would have a 9 as the 3rd digit.
vlad01 路
MickH wrote:They were private imports.馃憤
yeah thats it, couldn't think of what they called it.