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whats that engine degreaser?
vlad01 - January 5th, 2013 at 07:22 PM

Does anyone know where i can find and buy that engine degreaser you find at car wash? The one that you spray on using the pressure cleaner lance.

Its simply the best degreaser I have ever used, it actually works many fold better than what i have bought off the shelf. its also acidic so it brightens alloy very nicely, but it does damage metallic paint.

Its also the only thing that removes bugs and gunk of the front of my car without me having to touch anything, spray on, rise off all bugs and crap completely gone.

me wants!

I've got a massive degreasing job to do and it ain't exactly small enough to take to the wash.

anyone can give me a heads up on what it is or if there is an off the self equivalent would be great. Or am I going to have to go to the car wash and fill some drums myself? :lol:

Cheers.


68AutoBug - January 5th, 2013 at 07:38 PM

Hi Vlad,

Doesn't sound good if it damages metallic paintwork..
but it should damage all paintwork as I don't know if metallic paint has a different top coat..
I would think they would all be the same these days..

If used at a public washer it would need to be people friendly
and bio degradeable etc..

although its put on and taken off [with pressure]..

I think the bugs off , comes from the pressure of the water..
rather than then degreaser.. ??

so probably many degreasers would work with that amount of pressure.. ??

there are some expensive "green" degreasers about.. and not forgetting truck wash [which I've never used]
but have heard its good stuff.. so, should get bugs off too...

cheers

LEE


vlad01 - January 5th, 2013 at 10:23 PM

nah I just need raw degreasing power. I need to clean off about 1" of grease from the front half of the under body of a car, its one hell of a mess so I need strong degreaser and its cleans the engine bay super nice, comes up like factory new.

I need it as clean and grease free as possible as I will be doing some paint work in the engine bay. and I could do with a clean inside the doors too, pretty dirty in there.

when I said it damages metallic paint, mostly older metallics before clear coats came about but I still wouldn't recommend using in on the actual body work as it seems to dull paint and plastics, takes wax and oils out of anything oil based making it looks dull. And straight gloss metalic without clear coat, well its turns it white lol

I certainly wouldn't call the stuff "people friendly" get it on your hands and its does sting a bit.

Normally I can get the underbody and engine bay super clean in 10 minutes with the stuff, otherwise the off the shelf petroleum or water based degreasers need heaps of reapplications and physical scrubbing, its just plan crap and waste of time and money especially for the underbody.

the closest thing I have used off the shelf was truck wash, worked ok but still.


As for the bugs, no they do not come off unless i use the degreaser, my niece told me to try it, i was amazed, did it on my friends car, he was blown away on how clean it came up. I mean i can get them off mostly if I use the normal foam brush and scrub for ages over and over but can't get them off completely. the degreaser of the other hand. :yes:


Smiley - January 6th, 2013 at 12:16 AM

Why not just ask at the car wash?


Smiley :)


donn - January 6th, 2013 at 08:52 AM

Getting bugs off, Mr Sheen, magic, but it also depends on the paint finish as when I wash the Forester every thing comes off prety easy, the Holden Crewman I had, well that's a diferent storey, just about had to chisel things off that HOS


13bwagon - January 6th, 2013 at 09:06 AM

is it a pink colour ?? i buy stuff from repco that has acid it in comes in 4 l i will find a name for you


13bwagon - January 6th, 2013 at 09:15 AM

motogard 5 L i brought 4 when the where on sale at repco for 12 each other wise i think there anout 15 or 16 also says corrosive :)


mactaylor - January 6th, 2013 at 10:48 AM

I bought a 20ltr drum of degreaser from an industrial paint supply company, cant remember the name but it was the best ive used, it made my hands go slimy and peel the next day, but it strips most stuff quickly.


helbus - January 6th, 2013 at 07:42 PM

We use a pink coloured product called Rip Off at work. It is caustic, stings your hands, makes them slimy and makes your skin peel off the next day.


Klaus - January 6th, 2013 at 09:21 PM

a scraper and oven cleaner works well , thinners or prepwash , paint stripper for really gunked up stuff but that might be getting too harsh


68AutoBug - January 7th, 2013 at 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by helbus
We use a pink coloured product called Rip Off at work. It is caustic, stings your hands, makes them slimy and makes your skin peel off the next day.


Does OH&S know about this??

:lol::lol: doesn't sound too friendly... lol

Cleaner My Wife knows says they are NOT allowed to use ANY good old cleaning products now in case they injure themselves...
due to OH&S laws..

its got to be green and You have to be able to drink it... lol
without getting sick... lol [off work]
[I just added that part.. lol ]

its a bit like getting a hot cup of coffee nowadays...
they are only allowed to heat the water to a certain temperature so You don't burn Your lip or tongue.. lol
and they cannot scald themselves... lol

LEE


helbus - January 7th, 2013 at 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by 68AutoBug
Quote:
Originally posted by helbus
We use a pink coloured product called Rip Off at work. It is caustic, stings your hands, makes them slimy and makes your skin peel off the next day.


Does OH&S know about this??


You don't get it on your hands. In a panel shop just about all tools and products will injure you. OH&S is about having enough brains to not injure yourself.

Frikin natural selection is what it should be called.


vlad01 - January 7th, 2013 at 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by 13bwagon
is it a pink colour ?? i buy stuff from repco that has acid it in comes in 4 l i will find a name for you


nah its fluro yellow.

i got some, just took a 5L bottle and filled it about half way just an hour ago. washed a heaps of greasy parts that had sand, dirt, trany fuild and all kinds of crap caked on several mm. took that crap right off.

washed some wiring looms as well as they were also caked in grease and oil. i didn't even want to handle that! The crinkle tube was horrendous.


vlad01 - January 7th, 2013 at 08:47 PM

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Originally posted by helbus
Quote:
Originally posted by 68AutoBug
Quote:
Originally posted by helbus
We use a pink coloured product called Rip Off at work. It is caustic, stings your hands, makes them slimy and makes your skin peel off the next day.


Does OH&S know about this??


You don't get it on your hands. In a panel shop just about all tools and products will injure you. OH&S is about having enough brains to not injure yourself.

Frikin natural selection is what it should be called.


yes don't get caustic on your hands, its turns the fats and cell membranes in to soap, thats why its feels slimy. Instant cell death and hence the chemical burns.


nils - January 8th, 2013 at 07:20 AM

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OH&S is about having enough brains to not injure yourself.

Frikin natural selection is what it should be called.


If only that where true, . . . . i know my workplace could use a few less numptys:lol:


donn - January 8th, 2013 at 08:17 AM

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nah its fluro yellow.

i got some, just took a 5L bottle and filled it about half way just an hour ago. washed a heaps of greasy parts that had sand, dirt, trany fuild and all kinds of crap caked on several mm. took that crap right off.

washed some wiring looms as well as they were also caked in grease and oil. i didn't even want to handle that! The crinkle tube was horrendous.


What do you do with it after it's used?


68BUS - January 8th, 2013 at 09:08 AM

Get a bigger water blaster:lol:
The bottom side of all my running gear, whilst not an inch thick was at least half and inch and 40 years old. It was solid but still moist and scraping would give an arm ache very quickly.

I have a petrol gurney and I blasted 90% off then used normal degreaser from a pressure pack. Left it for 15 minutes then balsed again. Went through 2 cans and about 1 hour on the underside of the car but got back to factory paint in really good condition with no scraches or anything.

One thing to be said about grease pits of cars is they don't rust in those hard to reach places!


vlad01 - January 8th, 2013 at 10:38 PM

bigger water blaster?

how big do you want my pressure washer to be?

http://i1015.photobucket.com/albums/af278/vladk01/DSC00447.jpg


vlad01 - January 8th, 2013 at 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by donn
nah its fluro yellow.

i got some, just took a 5L bottle and filled it about half way just an hour ago. washed a heaps of greasy parts that had sand, dirt, trany fuild and all kinds of crap caked on several mm. took that crap right off.

washed some wiring looms as well as they were also caked in grease and oil. i didn't even want to handle that! The crinkle tube was horrendous.


What do you do with it after it's used?


what do yo mean?


donn - January 9th, 2013 at 06:02 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by vlad01
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Originally posted by donn
nah its fluro yellow.

i got some, just took a 5L bottle and filled it about half way just an hour ago. washed a heaps of greasy parts that had sand, dirt, trany fuild and all kinds of crap caked on several mm. took that crap right off.

washed some wiring looms as well as they were also caked in grease and oil. i didn't even want to handle that! The crinkle tube was horrendous.


What do you do with it after it's used?


what do yo mean?



All the crud and grease shifter chemical that's left over after the jobs done, how do you dispose of it, I have a similar problem and don't know what to do with all the left over crap (though it's not that stuff you are using, mine is far less toxic I reckon)


68BUS - January 9th, 2013 at 09:11 AM

I found the best disposal method is dumping it in the grass at the back of the property. Just be careful with sparks:crazy:


vlad01 - January 9th, 2013 at 10:18 AM

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Quote:
Originally posted by donn
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Originally posted by vlad01
Quote:
Originally posted by donn
nah its fluro yellow.

i got some, just took a 5L bottle and filled it about half way just an hour ago. washed a heaps of greasy parts that had sand, dirt, trany fuild and all kinds of crap caked on several mm. took that crap right off.

washed some wiring looms as well as they were also caked in grease and oil. i didn't even want to handle that! The crinkle tube was horrendous.


What do you do with it after it's used?


what do yo mean?



All the crud and grease shifter chemical that's left over after the jobs done, how do you dispose of it, I have a similar problem and don't know what to do with all the left over crap (though it's not that stuff you are using, mine is far less toxic I reckon)



straight on the ground where I wash it off on the drive way or grass. Keeps the grass from growing on the drive just they way I like it.