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a really good idea.
donn - October 23rd, 2013 at 02:01 PM

http://www.nobutts.com.au/Dob-in-a-tosser-Citizen-Littering-Report.html 


Isola - October 23rd, 2013 at 09:19 PM

This is highly relevant to my interests!


h - October 23rd, 2013 at 10:11 PM

oh well it worked in the 30's so yeah I guess it's time to bring it back again..
when will it end..? brown shirts optional..


cnfabo - October 23rd, 2013 at 11:11 PM

Support it 110%, f ing hate durry Butt's everywhere...should be focusing more on subjects like this rather then speeding fines


vwo60 - October 24th, 2013 at 08:30 AM

Aptly named, dob in a tosser, it would not be required if people did the right thing.


ragged - October 24th, 2013 at 01:49 PM

Just a thought! In South Australia, you pay a 10 cent fee for every drink container you purchase. When they get tossed out of car windows, some poor pensioner will pick it up and collect the 10cent refund.
Cigarettes are highly taxed as it is, an extra 10 cents per cigarette would hardly add much to the purchase price? So why not make butts worth something?
Good thing is, when you have no money to buy cigarettes, just empty your ash tray and cash in those butts. Or throw them away so the poor pensioners can pick them up.
:rolleyes:


h - October 24th, 2013 at 05:01 PM

just ban smoking.. :D
to easy n just think of all the empty beds in the hospitals
oh the posse is gathering and sharpening up the pitch forks :lol:


tweety - October 24th, 2013 at 05:50 PM

For 12 or more years I've been reporting litter and smoky vehicles to the EPA on line in Victoria. one car had two young guys smoking and both threw out their lit butts. $400 for them.

Had a guy at a drive thru maccas. stuffed an empty packe tof fags in a bush. I walked up and threw it into his cabin and told him to bin it properly. after he got his order I followed him )I didnt order!!) and he threw it out again. reported- $400.

Once a guy threw a butt out on a total fire ban day. I pulled up at the lights and asked him to pick it up. Nope!. $200 fine.

To some this would look like a quasi frustrated copper. To me it is forcing education. These guys would tell 30 of their mates and have a widespread effect.

Butts to collect is a good idea but there would be health hazards.

so register on line. Victoria https://www.google.com.au/#q=epa+victoria 


Governor - October 24th, 2013 at 05:57 PM

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Originally posted by h
just ban smoking.. :D
to easy n just think of all the empty beds in the hospitals
oh the posse is gathering and sharpening up the pitch forks :lol:


If they banned cigarettes, there would be no hospitals!
Have you seen where the tax money goes and how much they tax them.
Thats why the government wont ban them


Yogie - October 24th, 2013 at 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by Governor
Quote:
Originally posted by h
just ban smoking.. :D
to easy n just think of all the empty beds in the hospitals
oh the posse is gathering and sharpening up the pitch forks :lol:


If they banned cigarettes, there would be no hospitals!
Have you seen where the tax money goes and how much they tax them.
Thats why the government wont ban them


Wrong. It costs more to treat the illnesses caused by smoking than the taxes raised.


bajachris88 - October 24th, 2013 at 09:42 PM

did they put carbon tax on the ciggies by any chance :P?


vlad01 - October 24th, 2013 at 10:38 PM

this is good.

I got Melbourne assholes to take care of dumping rubbish and butts near my property and town water supply.

scum bag city rats coming out to the country to dump their crap makes me sick :grind:


vwo60 - October 25th, 2013 at 08:21 AM

The best I saw was a person stopped at the lights, open the door and empty the ash tray on the road.


sgetty - October 25th, 2013 at 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by vwo60
Aptly named, dob in a tosser, it would not be required if people did the right thing.


agree....pity really.

those tossers are too self centred for this to work, it will be everyone else's fault that they get fined.


I live on the pristine macdonald river near bendemeer and the amount of rubbish thats thrown out the window only metres from the river is disgusting.. Even from people that are going to fish from it!?! Long weekends when people are heading to their "Hobby farms" for a piss up shootem weekends are the worse..


Joel - October 25th, 2013 at 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by vwo60
The best I saw was a person stopped at the lights, open the door and empty the ash tray on the road.


Probably this person doing some weight reduction....

http://steveshark.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/tn.jpg


tweety - October 26th, 2013 at 11:31 PM

I am not going to be popular here but...well we are all different arent we.

I also live in the country- 2 hours from the northern Melbourne subs. Every Friday night you can see along the Hume Highway at a hamlet called "bunker hill" a stream of headlights. City folk going to the country. Fine. Great if they want to enjoy the peace and quiet. How many are towing 2, 3 or more unregistered trail or motocross bikes? Fine...well mostly no, not fine at all.

If these environmental terrorists (told you I wont be popular) have at least 500 acres AND use their bird scaring machines in the centre of their own land AND have at least a reasonably efficient exhaust system AND limit their blat blat baltting to say a reasonable 2 hours a day then I withdraw my tag of terrorist and replace it with vandals.

"If a motorcross motorcycle had zero noise eg electric, how many would be ridden"? There is a "look at me mentality" I have it too- a trike that is a real "look at me machine" but is quiet....

Lets disect this. 95% of these people dont give a rats about the native wildlife nor the residents nearby. Most wont have 500 acres. Place a rat tatat in 100 acres for 4 hours a day and kid you not it will drive someone crazy. And most of us permanent residents are avoiding crazy by living here in the first place.

So up they come, camp somewhere overnight and cant wait to unhook their noisy machine that took the place of chest beating the cave man had, to ride off usually in a state park. Oh, they ignore the signs that state motorcycles must be registered. The dirt track in a state park is no different legality wise to the Hume Highway they came up on. They didnt ride their noisy unregistered monster coming up here though eh....no sir. They might have got caught see. So off they go. Little old man driving his New Toyota "oh what a feeling" tray with his wife of 45 years as passenger casually tows his trailer along that "deserted" track, an area designated as an official firewood collection area suddenly comes across a stream of revving self interested often young irresponsible pricks coming towards him. The first bike misses him, the second clips his tray and crashes and the third goes through the windscreen missing the old man but kills his wife.

The first keeps going thinking the others will follow. The crashed biker has a broken leg and unknown head injuries. The old man saw the second guy fly off to one side in his rear view mirror. The old man a Vietnam Veteran who has severe nervous disorders, tries to ring for help at all times knowing his wife is dead. No reception. He cant leave his injured biker.

So lets cut to the chase. Ambo helicopters, search parties, etc one old man hopefully survives the ordeal, two dead, one injured, one biker asking himself why it happened. Funeral, grieving loved ones, possibly guilty parents that drove them up there in the first place. (get the picture) Old man seeking damages from TAC. TAC seeking damages from surviving biker. Police charge both surviving bikers. slap on the wrist there. community picks up the tab. These Bikers expect that, they dont think where the money comes from, like riding in a state park they dont care. Old man sues the parents. Parents lose their home. Mum blames dad, marriage splits community picks up the tab...oh boy...

I'm sure you get the picture. Thats in a state park. Now briefly lets look at private land. I own one acre. next door once was a vacant one acre. In a town of 200 people. then the new buyer had 2 girls 4 and 6 yo. he just had to buy them a motorbike each. After all these pretty feminine girls begged for a motorcycle...not! but- well its what you do right? so around and around they went sometimes less that 5 metres from our outdoor bbq area every weekend. ringdingding ringdingding For 6 hours or more a day. if it wasnt the girls riding it was mum and dad or one of their 12 relatives tenting it. eventually dad asked us..."the bikes dont bother you do they haha"...I replied "why do you ask if you already know they dont". so an arguement developed. I asked council. Council explains its really hard to prosecute them even though they have a bylaw covering it). So mentioned they have a small caravan no toilet and two kids. The land was sold within one month. More than one way to skin a cat.

We are talking pollution. Noise pollution. We are also talking about attitudes. Bad attitudes. If you own a vW beetle and the loudest exhaust ever heard then you do come into this category and I make no excuses. It bothers most people that want to hear their tV or want their baby to sleep. But if you like a nice note on your engine with a reasonable noise level and good efficiency then great. It'll turn more heads than the previous. And you wont be hated, your machine will be admired.

I apologise if I've crossed the line with some. Maybe its my perception. I dont see country folk travelling to the city annoying city people in their activities. But we see/hear the city folk coming here in droves and many of them are towing their weapons of destruction behind them.

For the inconsiderate- life isnt all about you. this world is shared by others including animals that have rights too. Buy a 4 stroke, good muffler, large land and make friends with thy neighbour.....yeh, I'm an old fart with a good point


Isola - October 27th, 2013 at 02:39 AM

Sorry Tweety... which one was the smoker?


tweety - October 27th, 2013 at 08:38 AM

Top point...err....sorry too. The coronor


shokwave2 - October 27th, 2013 at 08:57 AM

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Originally posted by tweety

If you own a vW beetle and the loudest exhaust ever heard then you do come into this category and I make no excuses.


I run a phatboy muffler on a 2054cc (loud), but i've never had a cigarette in my life (don't litter). So do they cancel each other out?


donn - October 27th, 2013 at 09:13 AM

Well I didn't expect this many replies on the subject, tweety does have a point though, polution comes in many guises not just cig butts, actualy there is a page for reporting noise polution but in reality if we all reported every case of "tossers" we see would the authorities have time to chase them up? hardly, I often chat people for dumping litter but wonder if it has any effect, two cases I recall gave me great delight.
1. Two well suited fellas complete with brief cases walking side by side into a shopping centre, one was smoking and just tossed his half smoked cig onto the path way as they entered the shopping complex, I hurried up to him and told him he had dropped something and he quickly turned around to retrieve whatever he had dropped, not seing anything that he recognised he gave me a look of confusion, I pointed at the cig (still smoking) and his mate walked off laughing, he followed giving me a dirty look but didn't pick up the cig.
2. A woman sitting at a bus stop reading a mag threw her finished butt onto the ground (a butt receptical was within one meter of her) as I walked past I picked it up, advised her she had dropped it and gently placed it on her open mag, scared the bejesus out of her, funny as.
Yep, your right, my hallo is gettoing a bit tight, but I have to get my entertainment somehow. :lol::D


HappyDaze - October 27th, 2013 at 09:36 AM

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Originally posted by shokwave2
Quote:
Originally posted by tweety

If you own a vW beetle and the loudest exhaust ever heard then you do come into this category and I make no excuses.


I run a phatboy muffler on a 2054cc (loud), but i've never had a cigarette in my life (don't litter). So do they cancel each other out?

That should be OK.....providing the car doesn't smoke.:lol:


tweety - October 27th, 2013 at 10:07 AM

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I run a phatboy muffler on a 2054cc (loud), but i've never had a cigarette in my life (don't litter). So do they cancel each other out?


I know of a couple of one percenter bikies that have no teeth but eat chicken bones for breakfast but they donate a teddy bears on toy run days every year so yeh...sounds fair....:cool:


shokwave2 - October 27th, 2013 at 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by HappyDaze
Quote:
Originally posted by shokwave2
Quote:
Originally posted by tweety

If you own a vW beetle and the loudest exhaust ever heard then you do come into this category and I make no excuses.


I run a phatboy muffler on a 2054cc (loud), but i've never had a cigarette in my life (don't litter). So do they cancel each other out?

That should be OK.....providing the car doesn't smoke.:lol:


Nah, but the tyres do sometimes :punk: