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V5 motor in a Mk4 Golf?
modnrod - February 5th, 2016 at 12:33 PM

Did the 2.3L V5 motor in the early 2000s come out in a Mk4 Golf locally?
I have seen a few Boras getting around, but while they have always been a favourite over the Golf or the Polo, the roads I drive on I'm a bit hesitant about the bumps and dust getting into the electrics, so I thought a Golf would be less electric-heavy and so a bit more reliable in the long run.
Mk4 Polos are also cool tbh, less fuel and more fun, but that 5 cylinder noise is missing........

Golf V5, or take a chance on the Bora electrics?

AA003 - February 5th, 2016 at 01:52 PM

What's the difference in the electrics?

modnrod - February 5th, 2016 at 02:02 PM

I just thought the Bora had more of them than the Golf.

beetleboyjeff - February 5th, 2016 at 11:34 PM

We haven't had any problems with the electrics in our V5 Bora

modnrod - February 6th, 2016 at 08:22 AM

Thanks Jeff.
Apart from the usual niggles you get with more km, has it been a good runner for you?
It's at the top of the list if there isn't a V5 Golf.

beetleboyjeff - February 6th, 2016 at 08:31 AM

It is my wife's car, and it has about 150,000 km on it. We have had bugger all problems with it. Lovely car to drive. :-)

Phil74Camper - February 6th, 2016 at 02:00 PM

The V5 Golf was available in Europe and for the US market, but was not imported to Australia. VW Australia tried to position the Bora as a more 'upmarket' car than the Golf, at a higher price.

For Australia the Golf 4 was imported with 1.6, 2.0 and 1.8 turbo engines. The 1.6 was 75 kW / 148 Nm. The 2.0 was 85 kW / 170 Nm. The GTI 1.8T was 110 kW / 210 kW. By comparison, the Bora's V5 was 125 kW / 220 Nm. You could also buy an Australian Bora with a 2.8-litre V6 - with 150 kW / 270 Nm. This was the top-of-the-range 4Motion model. The Bora was also sold with the Golf's 2.0 four, but not the other two Golf engines.

I have a 2.0 Bora and it has been very good. No engine electrics problems; unlike the previous Golf 3 that had numerous power supply relay and crank angle sensor problems. The Bora has had some niggles with the electrics of the boot and door locks. I've heard complaints about the electric windows too, but I haven't had any with mine (touch wood). The Golf's would be the same.

If you'd prefer a hatch Golf than a sedan Bora, try looking for a GTI version.

modnrod - February 6th, 2016 at 02:49 PM

I have been looking around a bit at different options Phil, I also like the Mk4 Golf a lot, they run from 3G to 6G over here it seems. The Mk4 Polo with the round quad lights has always been a model I've liked too, but I'm unsure if the 1.4 Polo or the 2.0 8V Golf have the pick-up for long trucks on short straights, that's why I thought the V5 might be better.

Phil74Camper - February 6th, 2016 at 03:06 PM

VW brochures only quote 0-100 km/h figures and top speed. I have them all, and to compare them, using the 2002 editions (for the Golf/Bora models you mention, plus the 4-round light Polo):

Polo 1.4 (55 kW / 126 Nm) 0-100 in 12.9 sec manual, 15.3 auto. Top speed 172 km/h manual, 168 km/h auto. 9.3 L/100 km city, 5.3 L/100 km/h hwy (manual)
Golf 1.6 (75 kW / 148 Nm) 0-100 in 11.8 sec manual, 14.1 auto. Top speed 190 km/h manual, 187 km/h auto. 7.8 L/100 km city, 5.3 L/100 km/h hwy (manual)
Golf 2.0 (85 kW / 170 km/h) 0-100 in 10.5 sec manual, 11.9 auto. Top speed 195 km/h manual, 192 km/h auto. 8.3 L/100 km city, 5.4 L/100 km/h hwy (manual)
Golf GTI 1.8T (110 kW / 210 Nm) 0-100 in 8.5 sec (manual only). Top speed 216 km/h. 8.3 L/100 km city, 5.7 L/100 km hwy.
Bora 2.0 (85 kW / 170 Nm) 0-100 in 11.0 sec manual, 12.8 auto. Top speed 195 km/h manual, 192 km/h auto. 8.3 L/100 km city, 5.4 L/100 km hwy (manual)
Bora V5 (125 kW / 220 Nm) 0-100 in 8.5 sec manual, 9.2 auto. Top speed 224 km/h manual, 220 km/h auto. 9.7 L/100 km city, 6.2 L/100 km hwy (manual)
Bora V6 (150 kW / 270 Nm) 0-100 in 7.4 sec (manual only). Top speed 235 km/h. 11.4 L/100 km city, 6.8 L/100 km hwy.

So the 2.0 Golf or Bora is 2 seconds quicker than the Polo to 100. Top speed irrelevant in Australia! And according to VW, the Polo also uses rather more fuel around town than the Golf/Bora, but slightly less on the highway.

modnrod - February 6th, 2016 at 04:29 PM

Thanks Phil, you're a legend! Those numbers give me a good clue about where they all sit, much appreciated.

modnrod - February 8th, 2016 at 08:28 PM

:lol:

No really, I've seen them for about the same as nice 2.0L petrol Golfs. I've driven the diesels, I like them I do, quite nice thanks.

So, as a quick postscript (coz I know how they drive), I wonder how long they last before going pop?
300K? 400K? The early 6sp DSG likely to last too?

A decent Golf TDI and I could probably replace the bike as a commuter I rekn.

Experience and thoughts on the diesels, in particular the hotrod 2.0L 103kW?
(And thanks everyone for the patience with my dumb questions).

Regards,
Dave

beetleboyjeff - February 8th, 2016 at 09:35 PM

My brother recently bought his 2nd diesel Jetta, he sold his old one to his daughter. He swears by them, he must be pretty happy with them to buy another one, and if his old one is good enough for his daughter, they must last reasonably well to trust it with her.

modnrod - February 8th, 2016 at 09:55 PM

Hey again Jeff! :)

Since all I want is a Volksie of any denomination, so I can go to club runs and such while still playing with "the project", I figured I might as well raise the price level a bit and get one that will last, not just cheap.
Hence the diesel question too. I don't really have much of a clue, I know very little about late model stuff.

And lets face it, it might hafta last for a LONG time for when the project is finally done! :lol:

Bug_racer - February 10th, 2016 at 07:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Phil74Camper
The V5 Golf was available in Europe and for the US market, but was not imported to Australia. VW Australia tried to position the Bora as a more 'upmarket' car than the Golf, at a higher price.

For Australia the Golf 4 was imported with 1.6, 2.0 and 1.8 turbo engines. The 1.6 was 75 kW / 148 Nm. The 2.0 was 85 kW / 170 Nm. The GTI 1.8T was 110 kW / 210 kW. By comparison, the Bora's V5 was 125 kW / 220 Nm. You could also buy an Australian Bora with a 2.8-litre V6 - with 150 kW / 270 Nm. This was the top-of-the-range 4Motion model. The Bora was also sold with the Golf's 2.0 four, but not the other two Golf engines.

I have a 2.0 Bora and it has been very good. No engine electrics problems; unlike the previous Golf 3 that had numerous power supply relay and crank angle sensor problems. The Bora has had some niggles with the electrics of the boot and door locks. I've heard complaints about the electric windows too, but I haven't had any with mine (touch wood). The Golf's would be the same.

If you'd prefer a hatch Golf than a sedan Bora, try looking for a GTI version.



The Bora came with 2 different V5 versions

The early one was 110kw 2V per cylinder while the later was 4V 125kw .

The Golf up to 2000 was available with 1.6 or 1.8 and around 2000 was replaced with the 2.0 . The 1.8 was 92 kw and was a similar engine available in the Audi A3 . Audi kept the 1.8 when VW went with the 2.0 .

AA003 - February 11th, 2016 at 05:22 AM

The Golf 3 was 2.0 from 1993.