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Menangler - September 19th, 2003 at 09:06 PM

Check this out, the engine looks like a beetle engine, what do you think?
http://www.old.com.au/detail.php?stocknum=1034 

matara - September 19th, 2003 at 10:03 PM

Dave,

I think the 912 came with the same engine as the Porsche 356C which looks very much like a Beetle engine. This one however looks like it has a beetle engine as the generator stand is flat. Porsche engines have a 3 piece case and the generator stand is on a slant.

Here is a real 912 engine:-


http://www.silentflight.com/porsch3.jpg

And here is a 356C engine:-


http://www.xshelton.com/356/photos/engine/06.jpg

Yep its a beetle engine!

Steve

VWCOOL - September 20th, 2003 at 09:15 AM

So does that make it a VW-powered Porsche, or a re-bodied Beetle?!

koolkarmakombi - September 20th, 2003 at 09:59 AM

That white fanhousing engine is just beautiful!:D

68AutoBug - September 20th, 2003 at 10:58 AM

It looks like a VW Engine to Me....
Maybe an 1835 etc....
a 1600 just wouldn't do justice to a 912.
I saw a LHD 912 with NSW plates on thursday in Sydney.
Lee

Grey 57 - September 20th, 2003 at 12:01 PM

I thought that 912 Porshe had a modified T4 engine in them, same as a 914. My brother in law had one years ago and it definitly had an up right T4 with Porshe style fan.

mattie - September 20th, 2003 at 04:27 PM

its a vw motor look at the things for the heaters on the sides of the fan shroud its a nice car too

Cam - September 20th, 2003 at 05:01 PM

The 912 was the pov' version of the 911. Using the 911 body, suspension but 356c 1600sc brakes, engine, etc... Most of these had 4 speed transmissions (again derived from the 356C) but were replaced by the 901 5 speed. Due to cost of converting the 4 speed to IRS.
For the first couple of years of 911 production the 356C was still being produced. The 912 was to soften the blow and get rid of excess 356C parts after the 356 discontinued.
So no, the motor is not a VW item. However many, many 912's have had 914 motors put in them with upright conversion kits (upright kits were being manufactured for the type4 right from 1968 by tuners in Germany). So it's not uncommon for these car to be running around. Some even with beetle motors.
But since we never officially imported Porsches into Australia until just recently, very few were actually shipped out here, since owners who could afford for Hamiltons (or the like) to bring them into the country would hardly go for the old kit under the new skin.

Cam - September 20th, 2003 at 05:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mattie
its a vw motor look at the things for the heaters on the sides of the fan shroud its a nice car too


Look at the angle the generator stand sits. The fuel pump, the forward facing bolt (showing the front piece of the 3 piece case), shape of the tinware over the cylinder heads, etc...
It is very similar and started as a VW motor. But after 20 years of foster parenting by the worlds best engineers, it's a different child altogether.

Cam - September 20th, 2003 at 05:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Cam
Quote:
Originally posted by mattie
its a vw motor look at the things for the heaters on the sides of the fan shroud its a nice car too


Look at the angle the generator stand sits. The fuel pump, the forward facing bolt (showing the front piece of the 3 piece case), shape of the tinware over the cylinder heads, etc...
It is very similar and started as a VW motor. But after 20 years of foster parenting by the worlds best engineers, it's a different child altogether.


My bad. I did'nt realise you were talking about the motor in the link. Soz:)

matara - September 20th, 2003 at 08:14 PM

I drove past the Oldtimer garage today on my way to look at a house. I popped in and saw this car up close. The engine is a real Porsche Engine (3 piece). In fact there was a guy there who was very interested in buying it. I like 912's but these days you can get an early 911S for the same cash (well as this one anyway).

Cheers

Steve

matara - October 3rd, 2003 at 06:15 PM

Here is a picture of the case of this particular car showing the engine number! I'm not 100% convinced this is a 912 engine now. Look at the case bolt?

Cam - October 3rd, 2003 at 10:40 PM

Nup! Thats VW case all the way. 2 piece and flat generator stand. Definately a Type1 motor