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Matara? / KG resto advice
lowrider - October 23rd, 2003 at 07:24 AM

Some advice wanted from you VW sages out there.. I'm finally starting on my early Karmann Ghia. I need a motor for it & have a 1600tp which I could fit with mods to the rear apron tin.
A purist would fit the original 1192cc but where do you find a good one?
The 1600 would drive heaps better too
Any views welcome
Andy

karmannghia60 - October 23rd, 2003 at 09:35 AM

Hi Andy
My '60 Ghia has a 1600 in it without any modifications. What mods are you talking about?
Raf

lowrider - October 23rd, 2003 at 01:09 PM

Raf,
its a '58, you need to trim about 25mm off the rear tin to fit the opening.
I'm thinking that keeping it original with a 1192cc
would be the ideal solution but finding a good one??
cheers
Andy

lowrider - October 24th, 2003 at 08:57 AM

thanks Terry
will be in contact
cheers
andy

matara - October 24th, 2003 at 09:34 AM

My Ghia has a 1192cc and it just purrs along, and is remarkably quick. If you put a 1600 in, then you really need to change the gearbox to take advantage of the extra power, otherwise using a 1200 box with a 1600cc engine will mean that you'll be able to accelerate pretty quick but the car will run out of legs and the engine will feel like its in third gear when your cruising on the highway.

You cant beat an engine that is matched to your gearbox and thats what the 1192cc is. Get a good one and it'll be enough.

Cheers

Steve

lowrider - October 24th, 2003 at 10:27 AM

Steve, are we talking about gear ratios here?
I've had to replace the original crash first gear-
type box with the later full synchro unit.
perhaps I should determine what its from?
It is from a 6V Vw though
cheers
Andy

matara - October 24th, 2003 at 02:31 PM

This may help you it out

Gearbox Code Model 1st 2nd 3rd 4th R&P Total in 4th Notes
AA 1200 3.78 2.06 1.26 0.93 4.375 4.069
AB 1300 3.78 2.06 1.26 0.93 4.375 4.069
AC 1500 3.78 2.06 1.26 0.89 4.125 3.671
AD 1200 3.78 2.06 1.26 0.93 4.375 4.069 LSD
AE 1300 3.78 2.06 1.26 0.93 4.375 4.069 LSD
AF 1500 3.78 2.06 1.26 0.89 4.125 3.671 LSD
AG 1200 3.78 2.06 1.26 0.93 4.375 4.069 Type 147 (Fridolin)
AH 1500/1600 3.78 2.06 1.26 0.89 4.125 3.671 "IRS"
AK 1500/1600 3.875 Type 181 (Trekker)
AL 1500/1600 3.875 Type 181 LSD
AM 1300 3.78 2.06 1.26 0.93 4.375 4.069 Saloon & Cabrio
AN 1600 3.78 2.06 1.26 0.93 3.875 3.604 Karmann Ghia "IRS"
AO 1600 3.78 2.06 1.26 0.93 3.875 3.604 Karmann Ghia
AP 1300 3.78 2.06 1.26 0.93 4.375 4.069 LSD
AQ 1600 3.78 2.06 1.26 0.89 4.125 3.671 LSD
AR 1600 3.78 2.06 1.26 0.93 3.875 3.604 Karmann Ghia LSD
AS 1600 3.78 2.06 1.26 0.93 3.875 3.604
AT 1600 3.78 2.06 1.26 0.93 3.875 3.604 1303S
AU 1600 3.78 2.06 1.26 0.93 3.875 3.604 1303S LSD
AX 3.78 2.06 1.26 0.93
BA 1300/1500 4.375 Semi-Auto
BC 1300/1500 4.375 Semi-Auto LSD
BE 1600 4.125 Semi-Auto
BF 1600 4.125 Semi-Auto LSD
BG 1300 4.125 Karmann Ghia Semi-Auto
BH 1300 4.125 Karmann Ghia Semi-Auto LSD
BJ 1300 4.375 Semi-Auto
BK 1300 4.375 Semi-Auto LSD
DA 1500/1600 3.78 2.06 1.26 0.89 4.125 3.671 Type III
DB 1500/1600 3.78 2.06 1.26 0.89 4.125 3.671 Type III LSD
DC 1500/1600 3.78 2.06 1.26 0.89 4.125 3.671 Type III "IRS"
DD 1500/1600 4.125 3.671 Type III "IRS" LSD

Steve

lowrider - October 24th, 2003 at 03:05 PM

WOW!
many thanks! I'll check it out.
I also have a '60 with a 1600tp and it does seem a little out of breath on the h'wy
Andy

lowrider - November 15th, 2003 at 03:08 PM

Steve,
checked out all my 'boxes & found only 7 digit serial numbers.
where do you see the gearbox code??
thanks
Andy

vw54 - November 15th, 2003 at 05:27 PM

Steve

Hey thats a great listing where did you get that ???