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There are differences T1, type 1, T2, type 2 etc.
helbus - October 25th, 2003 at 02:58 PM

For the newer forum users, sometimes the codes get misunderstood or misused.

Most know, but for those that don't this may help.

Type 1 is all beetles.

Type 1 motor is smaller up 1600cc motor used in Beetles, Country buggies, Karmann Ghia's, Type 3's, T1 kombies and early T2 kombies

Type 2 is all "Kombies" including busses, utes, panelvans.

Type 3 is fastback, squareback, notchback.

Type 4 is strange vehicle we didn't get much of here. - picture someone?

Type 4 motor is larger 1700cc- 2000cc motor used in Later T2 kombies.

T1 is all split screen type 2 up to '67

T2 is all bay or curvy screen type 2 '68-'79

T3 is wedge screen 'squarer style' or Vanagon.

T4 is The newer generation VW vans

Correct me here guys if I am wrong, but the 'T' may be for Transporter?

There is more detail and a lot of pics needed to eplain the minor differences, but I just wanted to at least distinguish that there is a difference between T1, type 1, T2, type 2


65square - October 25th, 2003 at 03:48 PM

Type 3 engine is different to type 1 as well. Type 1's have upright fans, Type 3 has the fan mounted on the front of the engine.
Heres a cool type 4:cool:


Flying VW - October 25th, 2003 at 04:56 PM

Yeah but if you take all that shit off they are the same. :)


68AutoBug - October 25th, 2003 at 05:57 PM

Type 3 engines are unique in that they will keep running without a fan belt, as the Fan is located on the end of the crankshaft.
Type 4's as in 411 & 412 were sold in NZ -New Guinea & south Africa in RHD but were never sold here... they were available as 2 & 4 door models., fastback & squareback (Variant) models... Simon Glen in Toowoomba has a restored model 411...
Do type 4 engines have the fan on the end of the crankshaft also??
Thats a nice pic of a customised 412 [variant] Squareback.
Lee


vwtyp2 - October 25th, 2003 at 07:57 PM

yes type 4 engines have the fan on the end of the crankshaft.
have a look in the back of an 1800 or 2 litre kombi.
it is however possible to do an "upright" conversion to a type 4 engine.
most commonly used with "sharpbuilt" style Porsche copy fan shrouds and Porsche fans.


3toes - October 25th, 2003 at 11:43 PM

When were splits and bays ever called T1's or T2's. I have only ever heard this said in Oz. I know the type 25 is called a T3 here but when the split came out it was just the type2 not the T1 type 2 or the the type 2 T1.


vwtyp2 - October 26th, 2003 at 08:22 PM

maybe because the later models weren't made yet to reference to?


11CAB - October 26th, 2003 at 09:03 PM

I've never heard the split kombi's called a T1, all kombis up to 1980 were known as type 2.


11CAB - October 26th, 2003 at 09:06 PM

The one that really bugs me is when people call the type 3 a T3.....:alien


sgetty - October 26th, 2003 at 09:40 PM

how bloody confusing:(


Kai.A. - October 26th, 2003 at 09:46 PM

i don't think it's wrong to call a type 3 a t3, but then what you would call a t3 (wedge van) i would call a type 25.....

it appears that people in different countries have different ideas of whats what.....(i lived in the uk for the last 8 odd years)

is it really that important that everyone knows which code is 'correct' for each vehicle??? surely we all understand..... they are all vw's at the end of the day :cool:

kai


Bizarre - October 27th, 2003 at 07:48 AM

Just to add to the confusion

I "thought" the T3 was a water cooled vanagon (sorry Dave but it describes it best)

T2 Type 2's were the bay

I have an air cooled vanagon and i "thought" they were called T2.5's

Huh.... there all Volksies!


KOM123 - October 27th, 2003 at 12:45 PM

To satisfy my curiosity (ignorance) can someone please clarify (preferably with pics), the differences between fastback, squareback, and notchback.

Cheers :)


Bizarre - October 27th, 2003 at 01:07 PM

Squareback


65square - October 27th, 2003 at 01:08 PM

here you go


Bizarre - October 27th, 2003 at 01:08 PM

Notchback


Bizarre - October 27th, 2003 at 01:09 PM

Fastback

sorry for steeling pics whoever owned them :D


Bizarre - October 27th, 2003 at 01:10 PM

bugger - forgot the pic


KOM123 - October 27th, 2003 at 01:14 PM

Thanks for clarifying!!!


sikdub - October 27th, 2003 at 02:51 PM

didnt Rhys (Kombi Kid) buy that fastback in the last pic?
Steven


vw54 - October 27th, 2003 at 03:37 PM

Barry

Quote:

I "thought" the T3 was a water cooled vanagon (sorry Dave but it describes it best)



Thats OK mate cause thats exactly what there sold as in USA. No problems with that name only the other stupid term the poms use.


57kombi - October 27th, 2003 at 03:48 PM

Dave, next you will be saying that there is something wrong with calling a 23 deluxe a
lol
Dave


vw54 - October 27th, 2003 at 06:18 PM

See theres NO such thing !!!!


TheGermanFolks - October 27th, 2003 at 06:30 PM

LOL, you crazy kids. so do you guys call all spilttys, Kombi's?


Black_math - October 27th, 2003 at 06:58 PM

Depends, we just call em kombis too lazy to name proply:)


57kombi - October 27th, 2003 at 08:23 PM

German Folks

We basically call all type 2s kombi's, we know there are micros and panels and deluxes but in Oz all VW splits and bays are kombi's

Also for the newbies vw54 hates deluxes being called samba's, this has be going on since the forum started.
Recieved the WCM book thanks Dave.
Cheers
Dave


oval TOFU - October 27th, 2003 at 11:08 PM

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Also for the newbies vw54 hates deluxes being called samba's, this has be going on since the forum started.



I also know Dave hates whitewalls and ugly accessories... care to clarify why?

:thumb


vw54 - October 28th, 2003 at 07:48 AM

Quote:

I also know Dave hates whitewalls and ugly accessories... care to clarify why?



dont hate them all its just personal preference... but i do hate white walls as they all tend to fall off... the ones that are grooved into the tyre a good


Kombicol - October 28th, 2003 at 11:26 AM

sorry guys but if the purpose of this post was to clarify - it has backfired, i am more confused than ever,

but i feel ok about it coz it seems everyone else is too.


helbus - October 28th, 2003 at 04:48 PM

I can guarantee if you ring up a Volkswagen place and ask for a T3 part when you mean Type 3, they will be expecting you to be talking about a Caravelle/Vanagon/Wedge.

I just wanted to bring to light that a lot of people get confused on this issue, and I found it helpful to do a little research before calling our bus a T2, as it is not short for Type 2. :D