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VW Type 5
wolfsburger - October 25th, 2003 at 08:15 PM

Here is another veiw of the great new car from VW :repuke

wolfsburger - October 25th, 2003 at 08:30 PM

Here I go I hope this works

Boozer - October 25th, 2003 at 10:00 PM

is that for real?

vanderaj - October 26th, 2003 at 01:15 AM

no.

And it's not even April Fool's Day.

For a VW orientated rumor site, VW Vortex is the best place.

http://www.vwvortex.com 

For VW official stuff, go to http://www.volkswagen.de/ 

Air cooled engines cannot meet today's noise and pollution requirements, and are underpowered by water cooled standards. Lean burn direct injection engines run even hotter than normal engines, I doubt you could disappate enough heat without signifcant fan sizes, which causes energy loss and increases noise.

If anything PDI (direct injection diesel) engines are VW's preferred method of reducing fuel consumption.

http://vortex3.rely.net/artman/publish/volkswagen_news/article_390.shtml 

Anyway, those images are of a Golf V three door. There's no such thing as a Type 5, except maybe that watercooled bus they made.

They stopped using the "Type xxx" nomenclature with the 411/412.

If you like, if they had continued with this nomenclature, they would have been like this:

Passat I - 511
Passat Variant - 512
Passat II - 513
II Variant - 514
Passat III - 515
III Variant - 516
Passat IV - 517
IV Variant - 518
Passat V - 519
Passat V Variant - 520

Golf I - 611
Golf II - 612
Golf III - 613
Golf IV 614
Sharan I - 615
Golf V 616
Sharan II - 617

Scirroco - 711

...

if they were to introduce a new car altogether, it would not be the type 5. Closer to type 13 or 15.

Andrew

Robo - October 26th, 2003 at 05:24 AM

I,m dissapointed now.

Black_math - October 26th, 2003 at 10:35 AM

:(damm its fake:( it was to good to be true

wolfsburger - October 26th, 2003 at 10:40 AM

This car is air cooled sure but it is also runs on compressed air...that has to be cleaner than deisel? I know it's not for real but it is nice to dream and give VW a poke in the ribs every now and then. As for the 'type' name well if they abandoned it with the type 4 then of course the next rear engined car would have to be the type 5. Sure it has been a few years between drinks but it would be worth the wait.

3toes - October 26th, 2003 at 11:52 AM

if VW had made a 511 and a 512. They would have been exactly the same car but one would be LHD and the other RHD. Your numbering system is way out:P

jenz58 - October 26th, 2003 at 12:09 PM

The VW engine, as developed for the automotive group, has a high power-to-weight ratio. Being automotive, they incorporate state-of-the-art technology for low emissions VW is in the process of introducing their new electronic engine that will meet all proposed EPA regulations through this decade.

From this site

http://www.lister-petter.com/lpi/engines/vw_content.htm

Black_math - October 26th, 2003 at 12:10 PM

Is it possibel to acculy do that though?

vanderaj - October 27th, 2003 at 12:06 PM

If by "acculy" you mean "actually" rather than "accurately", then I'm still not sure if you're referring to Jen's post or the air powered engine.

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The idea of storing air under pressure which could then be used to do work is insane. The pressures required would require a very large and robust tank, and not much work would come out of it (ie range would be crap). It would also require a fair amount of work to pressurize the gas to the required pressure.

Air-cooled engines are finished. You can dream all you want, but it'll never happen. I saw some nice air cooled cars on the weekend - Citroen 2CVs and GS's. Tiny engines driving the front wheels. :)

Diesel engines use a fraction of the juice of aircooled petrol engines, produce way more torque and often more power, are quieter and simpler.

Andrew

wolfsburger - October 29th, 2003 at 10:29 PM

This technology actually works have a look at;
http://www.theaircar.com/ 

They definetley need a bit of VW styling though...but the motor is a flat 4 and in the back!!:alien

Che Castro - October 30th, 2003 at 09:56 AM

wow that new golf looks good! looks like a cross btw a 911 and an MX5 from the front

555bug - October 30th, 2003 at 11:07 AM

AIR POWER

Roy J. Meyers - from LA built an air powered car in 1931. (air has
been used for years to power localised underground mine engines)
Myers, an engineer, built a 114lb, 6 cylinder radial air engine that
produced over 180 HP. Newspaper articles at the time reported that
the vehicle could cruise several hundred miles at low speeds.

Vittorio Sorgato - of Milan, Italy also created a very impressive
air powered vehicle in the 70's using compressed air stored as a
liquid. After a great deal of initial interest from Italian sources
his invention is now all but forgotten.

Robert Alexander - from Montebello, Ca. spent 45 days and around
$500 to put together a car (US PAT #3913004) based on a small 7/8ths
12 v-motor that provided the initial power. Once going , a hydraulic
and air system took over and recharged the small electric energy
drain. The inventor and his partner were determined that the auto
industry would not bury their "super power" system. To no avail.

Joseph P Troyan - designed an air powered flywheel that could propel
an automobile for 2c a mile. Using a principle of "ratio
amplification of motion" in a closed system, the Troyan motor (US PAT
# 040011) was easily attached to electric generators for pollution-
free variable power systems.

David McClintock - created his free energy device known as the
"McClintock Air Motor" (US PAT #2,982,26100) which is a cross between
a diesel engine with three cylinders with a compression ratio of 27
to 1, and a rotary engine with solar and plenary gears. It burns no
fuel, but becomes self-running by driving it's own air compressor.


air car