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See ya in a week 1916cc steroids coming back...
Peter Leonard - November 1st, 2003 at 04:58 PM

I'm heading off for a major heart transplant for Hoobie, up at Coffs Harbour (yes, it's Pobjoy territory ;))
any guesses what's going in?
I'll take a whole bunch of photos (if i remember) and post them up to see what happens when you abuse a 'base' 1916cc engine for five years or so. Hope also to get some photos of the rebuild and painting crap that I'm cramming into the space of a week. engine only.
:D
woohoo :D:P


kombi_kid - November 1st, 2003 at 05:31 PM

hey
are you coming to coffs??? we should catch up!!!!
cheers
rhys


Craig Torrens - November 7th, 2003 at 11:34 PM

Pete, guess what came from America today ?????

I will give you a hint, its made from aluminum:D:D

another 2 coming very soon:o


lugnuts - November 8th, 2003 at 01:50 AM

Ile bite a pair of replica TWIN TOWERS,:o


Craig Torrens - November 8th, 2003 at 12:46 PM

:D:D good guess but not right !

another hint: you can build strong motors using them :cool:


KruizinKombi - November 8th, 2003 at 01:59 PM

Aluminium case halves :thumb

I find it easier to start with a type IV block :P


56astro - November 9th, 2003 at 10:52 AM

Waiting ...........

waiting ................

Come on Pete, how long does it take to fit a 1916 POBJOY - MORE POWER WITH WARRANTY?

:bounce


Craig Torrens - November 9th, 2003 at 11:21 AM

phoned Pobjoy on Friday, he was still there. Pulled out his Base 1916cc then fitted the steroids. He had to replace fuel lines etc and paint parts, I think he left Coffs yesterday !:thumb

I know he will have a big smile :D

One more Aluminum cased Pobjoy Steroids hits the road :cool:


Peter Leonard - November 13th, 2003 at 11:30 PM

HOLY $*&#@%$!!:o

Coupla interesting things about my transplantation....
1. I still feel guilty for tearing down a perfectly running (5 year old plus) base 1916cc in my quest for even more power out of the humble VW. I asked Stan to let me watch and take some photos and stuff. he kinda shrugged and resumed talking again in his inimitable way. Upon dismantling it I felt like a criminal... it had practically no signs of wear at all!! bits like crank, camshaft, followers, heads (beautiful condition!!) conrods, the case itself was perfect, there was no coppery shit showing through the bearings, oil pump had some swirl marks where the gears touched the coverplate, carbies (look like new with a shot of carby cleaner)
and the clincher....

the freaky thing....

94mm pistons and barrels. perfect. With a dial bore gauge they came out more round (by a whole half a thou ;)) than the brand new barrels out of the box. the old rings were so good that a 15thou feeler guage was held vertically without sliding when you let go. A TIGHT fit. scrapey pressure tight. I mean what the ?!?!? I could barely believe it. Which is why the old pistons and cylinders are now on my new steroids motor, with new rings because it seems silly not to replace them while the motor's apart. After a quick hone it was obvious that there was almost no sign of where the piston had travelled either, the hone marks ran full length on the first turn. what does that mean? they're not wearing. thank god for BBQ plate ;) I have pics, for the doubting thomases out there, but they're awaiting development.

2. (yep I just made it to 2) I now have to learn how to drive all over again. seriously. After the frantic final fitment and the hassles with meeting the pink slip (rust problems hehehe) I jumped in and almost shat myself. The torque is almost uncontrollable, with a few bunny hops making me feel like a learner driver again. The new tricky heavy duty clutch has me confused; ultra light foot pressure, super heavy engagement. so you drive around laughing like an idiot. Which I am for not resisting the urge to blow off a P plater commodore while i'm sposed to be running it in. don't tell Stan. He's already pissed at me for not checking the work the muffler shop did on my extractors. they were shocking. not only did they weld the J-pipes on (making it f$#%$% hard to get them off and on) I had one 22mm exhaust gasket and one 35mm one on the other side :o NOT HAPPY JAN. Also the ends were inherently flawed as the weld on flange was narrower than the pipe! gaaaah!! Stan buzzed them out with a grinder but he was seriously unhappy with the flow. next item on the shopping list... suitably matched high flow exhaust system.

I'm not game to ring the revs up too high yet, and as the exhaust is so restrictive it probably wouldn't be wise anyway. I'm stoked. Blown away. Grinning like an idiot.
The power of this baby is obscene. guess I'm been blabbing long enough....
have to get those pics developed.... might go for a drive ;)
:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce


HotRodMatt - November 13th, 2003 at 11:36 PM

So we'll see it at the Sydney dyno day??????????????????

Don't be afraid to rev it. Fresh is best!


Oasis - November 14th, 2003 at 01:40 AM

:bounce:bounce:bounce YOU LUCKY BASTARD...:bounce:bounce:bounce
:D


lugnuts - November 14th, 2003 at 01:47 AM

What ^ said:(


Peter Leonard - November 14th, 2003 at 05:49 AM

didn't feel that lucky after 2 1/2 hours sleep before going to work at 7:30 :D
but hey, let the milo tin exhaust brigade slaying begin... when it's run in and has the right muffler/ exhaust hooked up. turns out that anyone can now have the same setup as me with a warranty (it's a full blown race engine... so that's kinda remarkable) but I'm happy to have one of the fastest little sleepers in town. so HAH!
Problem: I have to improve the handling before I wrap it around a pole, or drive through someone's living room $$. Also, my tires read 88 on the durometer :O translated: very hard, not much grip. To quote some dude: "How fast do you want to go? Speed costs money."
:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce


helbus - November 14th, 2003 at 07:02 AM

Ugggghhhhhh. <drool>

That is what I should have in the Helbus but in a TypeIV motor version.

I can just imagine the looks of the Ricers and Commondores faces when ya rip 'em.

Just imagine their faces if you could even keep up or come close in a KOMBI. :D


fullnoise - November 14th, 2003 at 09:25 AM

Hi Peter,

What heads do you have?

What cam do you have? Is it the 37/68 from the old steroid spec or is it the new steroid cam that Craig was talking about?

You'd be running 44IDFs no doubt. Have you had a blocked idle jet yet? I found that the Dellorto-type aircleaner assembly is good for stopping rubbish getting in and blocking the jets.

CYA, CT


Doug Sweetman - November 14th, 2003 at 10:00 AM

sweet :) actually........... very sweet !

Now if only Stan built Big Block type 4's with injection.... with the mans meticulous standards and aircraft quality machining and assembly, can you imagine how good a 2.6 type 4 with twin IDF throttle bodies would go ? ~160 - 180 hp ?

but its only money in the end isnt it ?


kombi_kid - November 14th, 2003 at 11:41 AM

bit of bad luck we didnt get to meet up peter!!!! i live in sawtell just south of coffs woulda been good to catch up!!!
hope the motor goes all well sounds like a great engine!!!
cheers
rhys


Craig Torrens - November 14th, 2003 at 12:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Doug Sweetman
sweet :) actually........... very sweet !

Now if only Stan built Big Block type 4's with injection.... with the mans meticulous standards and aircraft quality machining and assembly, can you imagine how good a 2.6 type 4 with twin IDF throttle bodies would go ? ~160 - 180 hp ?

but its only money in the end isnt it ?




ummm he does doug. This is Stan's problem, everyone thinks he only builds 1916's, many wild type 4 motors as well as porsche motors have come out of his workshop. Its just that the 1916cc is the best allrounder for him to promote.:thumb


Craig Torrens - November 14th, 2003 at 12:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by fullnoise
Hi Peter,

What heads do you have?

What cam do you have? Is it the 37/68 from the old steroid spec or is it the new steroid cam that Craig was talking about?


CYA, CT


New "steroids" cam CT, the 8000rpm screamer :D same as Greg ward and practically the same as mine :thumb

Heads are the new ported (by CB) 044's.


Gracey - November 14th, 2003 at 01:15 PM

Hey Pete, I hope none of my engine parts went missing last week, you know
Sydney bound.:D
You know why 94's are shit? Because they last too long ie. less rebuilds!!
By the way if your exhaust is restricted and your impressed with the performance, than your gonna shit your pants when you fix it. I know, been there done that.

Andrew Grace


Peter Leonard - November 14th, 2003 at 05:04 PM

LOL Andrew, I saw many bits marked with your name while I unobtrusively poked around, but he wouldn't give them to me :D I tried to shoehorn the massive aeroplane motor in the back of his workshop into my backseat, but he caught me trying to saw the prop in half to make it fit ;)
and i THINK I'll stick to the restrictive exhaust for a bit, while I get used to the power, also fundage doesn't allow for a merged system as yet, so it's a moot point. I'm going back up to coffs in a couple of weeks to get a professional retorque and valve adjustment, so people along the way let me know your details, and I'll drop in and bore you shitless with bragging stories about how I watched it being built. boing boing boing :P:D:thumb:bounce:bounce


jakriz - November 14th, 2003 at 06:50 PM

1. I still feel guilty for tearing down a perfectly running (5 year old plus) base 1916cc

Hey Pete, didn't u say that u couldn't do the drags the other week cause u had endfloat problems???

Jak

I'm on the Central Coast, so u can call in here first if u like for your first revive survive break

PS comforting to hear about the 94s
:thumb:thumb


Craig Torrens - November 14th, 2003 at 09:57 PM

Well thanks to Pete, I now have a complete Base 1916 (less Pistons and Dizzy !) in parts for my J&S buggy!

Line bore,bearings and pistons and away we go !!!

Make sure you have 1000k's on the dial before you hoon Pete, with the Aluminum case, this motor is for life !!!!:cool:


Peter Leonard - November 15th, 2003 at 12:18 AM

Damn you Craig, DAMN YOU! *bides time*
I guess I have another few hundred K's and a few adjustments to go, then. Yep Jak I did have 6 thou of endfloat, but I couldn't figure out where it was from?!!? after dismantling it :jesus
Turns out I could have raced the bugger, but I was playing it safe (<----- overly cautious it seems) what tyre softness have you got, btw Jak?

"... so then I says, well what is 'biding' anyways...."


Craig Torrens - November 15th, 2003 at 12:38 AM

Get a new exhaust ASAP Pete, from what Stan said on the phone your's was strangling the base 1916 , so I hardly think you are doing the new one any favours !:mad:


Peter Leonard - November 15th, 2003 at 12:50 AM

jeez Craig I've only been back in town for a couple of days :D (gimme some money and I'll get the exhaust ;))
It's obvious to me that we need more biding here..:P


Craig Torrens - November 15th, 2003 at 12:57 AM

looks like you'll have to drive to Hornsby then ! Maybe I could swap an exhaust for some parts !


jakriz - November 15th, 2003 at 05:02 AM

I've got Falkan ST115 tyres Pete, they are pretty good & pretty cheap, it's the best street tyre that Falkan make, but I have found they are limited on the track. They are fantastic in the wet too.
The prices start around 100 for 15's 200 for 16's & up to 260 or so for 17's.
Hope this helps.
Jak


Craig Torrens - November 15th, 2003 at 08:09 AM

thats a great price Jak, they looked to be working well at Eastern creek.


VWCOOL - November 15th, 2003 at 09:34 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Craig Torrens
Well thanks to Pete, I now have a complete Base 1916 (less Pistons and Dizzy !) in parts for my J&S buggy!

Line bore,bearings and pistons and away we go !!!


Make sure you have 1000k's on the dial before you hoon Pete, with the Aluminum case, this motor is for life !!!!:cool:


And an oil change.... Then drive it like you stole it!

Peter, do you have Hoodjaks or anything on your car?