Silver L Bug
retro - December 9th, 2003 at 12:50 PM
Has any seen this silver L bug running around the group 7 and state super sprint races. if you come up against it be very aware as it has some pretty
hi tech stuff happening with the engine interials. There is a guy that wears glass associated with the car who is a professor at Sydney Uni (one of my
lectures) who's been doing some research for VW Germany on their w10 engine and he has been experimenting on the silver L bug engine. The
professor is a wizard with carbon fibre and the L bug has some carbon fibre engine internials, the new engine is running ceramic pistons carbon fibre
pushrods, engine case, cam shaft and crank gears and engine bearing.
The engine specs are under 2 lt but it has some major horses working for it. How do I know all this I worked as a lab assistant on some of the
developement.
Brad - December 9th, 2003 at 01:38 PM
so where is all the pics ??????
Kai.A. - December 9th, 2003 at 04:28 PM
yeh, this sounds great! the vw scene needs more people willing to do it differently, and hi-tech new materials are obviously the way forward! but.....
where's the pics 
or maybe a link to a website or somethin???
it'd be great to see some info/pictures etc. :bounce
kai
Craig Torrens - December 9th, 2003 at 04:43 PM
what drugs are you on Retro !!!
The only silver bug I know is Rudy Franks and it certainly does not fit your description.
Are you sure about the info your quoting ??
56astro - December 9th, 2003 at 06:22 PM
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Originally
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the new engine is running ceramic pistons carbon fibre pushrods, engine case, cam shaft and crank gears and engine bearing.
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LMFHO
Now, it's your bed time Retro!
vw54 - December 9th, 2003 at 07:11 PM
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just like many others, Rudy's also a very good driver
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I think Rudy has a BIGGER sack as well...
He looks great behind the wheel I wish i had the balls sometimes... I dont seem to remember seeing any carbon fibre or was it carbon fibber ???
So who is the masked Retro ???
1303Steve - December 9th, 2003 at 11:54 PM
You mean this one?
Cam - December 10th, 2003 at 12:04 AM
If he's building carbon internals, why is he still running pushrods? Bring on camless, I say 
Brad - December 10th, 2003 at 08:46 AM
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If he's building carbon internals, why is he still running pushrods? Bring on camless, I say
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So are you saying there is no place in a VW for a "CAM" ??:o:o
retro - December 10th, 2003 at 09:54 AM
The mighty Silver L Bug has you all fooled you only see what they want you to see. Yes Jak Rudy is a good drive but that does not add up to 6 seconds
on everyone else does it?
Craig you know what I say is all true, stop living denial we can not keep hiding the truth the vw public needs to know there are other forces at work
here.
More information at hand the silver L bug also has carbon fibre conrods and have you check under that paint is the body all metal what about the
floorpan. I know that they had to put a full roll cage in to add weight as the car was far to light getting totally airborne over the flip flop at
Oran Park so don't beleave what they tell you and only half of what you see
Dark Glass and trench coats for all.:
Bizarre - December 10th, 2003 at 10:49 AM
here here
i reckon it is great that the patients from Rozelle and Gladesville are allowed to integrate with society again
I would keep up the medication though Retro.
I think it will take a lot longer than you think
Barry
Cam - December 10th, 2003 at 10:59 AM
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So are you saying
there is no place in a VW for a "CAM" ??:o:o
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haha, It's looking that way for myself atm.
I was just wondering tho. The guy builds from scratch, all his internals using composite materials and the like. Even a carbon case this guy tends to
suggest. And he does'nt bother building DOHC heads or anything like that?!?!
Cam - December 10th, 2003 at 11:08 AM
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Originally
posted by retro
The mighty Silver L Bug has you all fooled you only see what they want you to see. Yes Jak Rudy is a good drive but that does not add up to 6 seconds
on everyone else does it?
Craig you know what I say is all true, stop living denial we can not keep hiding the truth the vw public needs to know there are other forces at work
here.
More information at hand the silver L bug also has carbon fibre conrods and have you check under that paint is the body all metal what about the
floorpan. I know that they had to put a full roll cage in to add weight as the car was far to light getting totally airborne over the flip flop at
Oran Park so don't beleave what they tell you and only half of what you see
Dark Glass and trench coats for all.:
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Oh yes, I can see those rods shredding apart as we speak.
I know carbon cases are being built. But no race class allows them, so they can't be developed well enough, since they're stupidly expensive
to build. Carbon fibre rods would'nt work. Carbon could, but there is really no point with titanium items being so good, tried and true.
Also, why is the L-Bug running on off the shelf Simmons wheels. Wurely he would know about unsprung weight?!?!?! There would be GT2 carbon ceramic
brakes and V8 supercar 18" magnesium race wheels ($1200 a peice *swoon*) on the car if I had of built a fully custom, composite motor.
Oh, not to mention a DTM touring car styled carbon inner vehicle tub. To tie into the 20 point chromemolly cage (not a bolt in afair, like what he
currently has). With all ties into the suspension, fully seamwelded, gussetted, lightened body, engine load points, seating, etc...
And whilst I'm at it, you'd run Remmele or CSP carbon body panels (doors, boot, bonnet, guards) along with carrera cup carbon wings (of the
downforce variety). Not a fibreglass kit.
retro - December 10th, 2003 at 11:32 AM
If I am an Idiot and all these thing are not happening can you please explain why a little 1916 with less then ninety hp is 6 seconds quicker then all
the rest of cars its got to be true or how do we expain it?
Baja Wes - December 10th, 2003 at 11:39 AM
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have you check under that paint is the body all metal
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No, it's obviously a lot of fiberglass since it is running a Carrera body kit.
Better look out for that cutting edge `80's fiberglass body kit technology. :puke
BiX - December 10th, 2003 at 11:48 AM
what a fantasic bit of sledging. the aust cricket team would be proud:beer:beer:beer:beer cheers!!!!!
Cam - December 10th, 2003 at 12:00 PM
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Originally
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Don't bite Cam, he's an idiot.
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You can say that again 
btw, love your sig', Jak. Pasta does make you go faster:thumb I've done the experiment planty of times. Must be the carbohydrates.
Cam - December 10th, 2003 at 12:06 PM
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Originally
posted by retro
If I am an Idiot and all these thing are not happening can you please explain why a little 1916 with less then ninety hp is 6 seconds quicker then all
the rest of cars its got to be true or how do we expain it?
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Let me guys, I'm enjoying this. Had a shit week.
Because you are an idiot! Is his car stripped? Does he run slicks? Is he a kickarse driver? Does he have a close ratio 'box?
A race driver will be around 6 seconds a lap faster around a tighter track than a weekend warrior racer. Perfect example is Motor's performance
car of the year tests. Cameron McConneville's (sp?) times around Winton in comparison to all the other guys. Most club racers loose a few seconds
a lap when going around with an instructor (providing the car has the power and grip). Then the instructor is signifficantly faster than that,
again.
So you say his motor has less than 90hp, hey?:repuke
Baja Wes - December 10th, 2003 at 02:12 PM
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Originally
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can you please explain why a little 1916 with less then ninety hp is 6 seconds quicker then all the rest of cars...
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Because he takes one windscreen wiper off to reduce drag, Craig / Jak you guys should try it
Cam - December 10th, 2003 at 02:16 PM
Shit! And I was wondering why that sportsedan passed me at the last Group 5 meet.
Thanks Wes! You're a genius. Whats your opinion on bogging up the hole and making the wipers park halfway. Honda/chapel st style?
MickH - December 10th, 2003 at 02:17 PM
Now now fellas....no need to be nasty:bounce:bounce Wes...how goes the clutch??:jesus
fullnoise - December 10th, 2003 at 02:44 PM
It's the slicks. They must be carbon fibre!
What do you drive Retro?
What lap times does it do?
:cry
MickH - December 10th, 2003 at 02:50 PM
Hmmmm.... Retro-vision
Cam - December 10th, 2003 at 03:54 PM
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Originally
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It's the slicks. They must be carbon fibre!
What do you drive Retro?
What lap times does it do?
:cry
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*falls off chair laughing* Oh dude, that made me laugh so hard it hurt.
I think his secret lays beyond carbon fibre tho boys. I went down to autobarn and found the answer there myself. Stick on carbon fibre "print
taken from top quality photo of actual carbon fibre"
Kinda like the fake wood contact of the 70's.:puke
Craig Torrens - December 10th, 2003 at 04:55 PM
Just found out:
Rudy Frank is actually part man/part machine sent back from the future to try and kill all VW's :jesus
Baja Wes - December 10th, 2003 at 05:07 PM
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Originally
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how goes the clutch??:jesus
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The clutch is another story and the subject of another post, lets not get off topic.
Now I don't have anything against the silver L bug, and I am not trying to bag him out. I am just trying to point out that it hardly looks like
cutting edge technology is giving him any advantage.
I just wanted to be clear that we are stirring retro and his weird beliefs, and not the silver L
retro, please feel free to prove us all wrong, but you will need proof to do that.
vw54 - December 10th, 2003 at 07:05 PM
CT get some of those new Yokkie Carbon fiber yes thats fibber tyres... super light weight...
vanderaj - December 10th, 2003 at 08:08 PM
Play the ball, not the man.
Andrew
Craig Torrens - December 10th, 2003 at 08:16 PM
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Originally
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Just found out:
Rudy Frank is actually part man/part machine sent back from the future to try and kill all VW's :jesus
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Ooooops wrong facts:
The silver bug is part machine/part man sent back from the future !
retro - December 11th, 2003 at 10:07 AM
So you guys take the hook line sinker and the trace squirming like worms to justify why a pint size 1916 kicks your arse. Jak you told me one day that
your car could be used to go shopping, expensive grocery getter. You guys were the ones stroken your strokers over the dyno day and how little hp SPJ
1916s have and I was just trying to give you some matterial to work with but I did not think you would take it to heart.
But have you ever thought that maybe that guy is a Professor and he is doing research at Sydney uni on the w10 engine you should ask him I think you
will be surprised at what he does and what he knows.
LONG LIVE SPJ's 1916's ( which they do without rebiulds):