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How long did it take to warm up your vw this morning!! (Melbourne)
EgeWorks - April 20th, 2004 at 10:56 AM

I looked like a big time fool, first cold day, stall, stall stall, can't see through the fog on the windows. Smell like car engine from the heater. I LOVE MY CAR!!!


mscabrio - April 20th, 2004 at 11:25 AM

This morning was so cold .... 7 degrees ! The days of driving to you with the roof down are gone ! :cry

I remember I could NEVER start my beetle on cold mornings ... So I bought a new one !


vwombat - April 20th, 2004 at 11:25 AM

The Germans have this thing called a STANDHEIZUNG which keeps your motor cosy overnight. I think it uses the water cooling system to keep the temp up. Not much help to us airheads! Some of them actually put a funky little gas burner under their motors, but I'm not that game.

Luckily I live in balmy Queensland. Ha Ha!


mscabrio - April 20th, 2004 at 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by mscabrio
This morning was so cold .... 7 degrees ! The days of driving to you with the roof down are gone ! :cry

I remember I could NEVER start my beetle on cold mornings ... So I bought a new one !


OOPS !!!! TYPO .... I meant DRIVING TO WORK !!!!!!!!


Anthiron - April 20th, 2004 at 11:31 AM

good ol queensland:bounce


Lokita - April 20th, 2004 at 11:34 AM

I'm in Sydney so right in between and my car was pretty unhappy this morning. It started fine- it just didn't want to move anywhere!

:)


Starbug - April 20th, 2004 at 12:08 PM

i wouldnt be going on about balmy queensland temperatures if i were you...

i know cherry hates being woken up to drive to work of a saturday morning in winter. i hate having to go to work of a saturday morning in winter so i know how she feels. im stalling every 5 minutes until about midday!


Anthiron - April 20th, 2004 at 12:13 PM

u do have a valid point there starbuggy......but we can always make them think we are better off;) ......yeah it can get to about 3 degrees here in the sticks where i live in the middle of winter....not cool


BiX - April 20th, 2004 at 12:22 PM

anthiron well I think it owuld be cool:thumb


Anthiron - April 20th, 2004 at 12:25 PM

ha ha ha....perhaps:P


MickH - April 20th, 2004 at 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by Starbuggy
i wouldnt be going on about balmy queensland temperatures if i were you...

i know cherry hates being woken up to drive to work of a saturday morning in winter. i hate having to go to work of a saturday morning in winter so i know how she feels. im stalling every 5 minutes until about midday!



You live at the wrong end of the state!!!! Too close to the Mexicans...........:thumb


Cruzin in a Golf - April 20th, 2004 at 02:24 PM

ha ha, you guys are looking at the small picture....what people should do is move north in winter and south in the summer....car gets too cold in winter and too hot in summer, learn from the animals! Fly south for the summer and north for the winter. My car had a little bit of a splutter on start up this morning with choke out on full!


68AutoBug - April 20th, 2004 at 03:38 PM

Volkswagenwerk designed the automatic choke on the solex carby to help You start the car immediately, and drive away immediately... none of this rev the guts out of the motor before You drive away.... it doesn't do the engine any good either.. sitting and revving... You are supposed to drive away on the auto choke....

it gets to below Zero on some Winter mornings here... & over night... not looking forward to it.. then not looking forward to 40+ degrees Next Summer either...

and I agree with moving North in the Winter & South in the Summer.... many retired people do just that... 6 months north & 6 months South....

Lee


lugnuts - April 20th, 2004 at 03:50 PM

Hmmm 6mths north and 6mths south the worst of all compromises (ducks for cover and lurks til this thread dies) ;)


Cruzin in a Golf - April 20th, 2004 at 03:52 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 68AutoBug
Volkswagenwerk designed the automatic choke on the solex carby to help You start the car immediately, and drive away immediately... none of this rev the guts out of the motor before You drive away.... it doesn't do the engine any good either.. sitting and revving... You are supposed to drive away on the auto choke....


Thats useless anyway when my car is a golf diesel...so i dont rev the guts out of it, just sit and wait for it to warm itself...it was right after about 10 seconds.




[Edited on 20-4-2004 by Cruzin in a Golf]


65busser - April 20th, 2004 at 09:44 PM

What's the difference between sitting and revving and driving and revving on a cold engine? Isn't it kind of accepted that you should allow the engine to run / warm up before taking off. Different story for modern engines.
I think the developers of the automatic choke would like to have come up with something that allowed us to drive off immediately. It would have sounded good in the sales brochure, but I dont know.....


MickH - April 20th, 2004 at 09:53 PM

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I think the developers of the automatic choke would like to have come up with something that allowed us to drive off immediately. It would have sounded good in the sales brochure, but I dont know.....


Yeh...they wish they had put fuel injection into use a little earlier. :thumb

[Edited on 20-4-2004 by Mick H]


65busser - April 20th, 2004 at 10:23 PM

I'm sure their hearts were in the right place. Hey Lee, when was an automatic choke introduced on a Volkswagen?


Peter Leonard - April 20th, 2004 at 11:46 PM

auto chokes are a great way of helping to wear out your engine prematurely. sheesh. just sit for a minute while it warms naturally (no reason to rev the crapola out of it), then drive it nicely for the first couple of minutes. be nice to your leedle dub...


pickle - April 21st, 2004 at 03:12 AM

Whats up with you lot, you don't know what cold is................ Try running a split camper over here when its snowing and the thing had twin carbs and no choke :mad:
never had to many probs over here in the winter just normal vw type stuff like no view outa the front screen :cool:
just drive em gentle till they get warm and everything will be fine.


vwombat - April 21st, 2004 at 09:01 AM

Well done old Bean! That's put us Convicts in our place now hasn't it!

"When I was a boy, we had to push our 21 Window 15 Miles through the snow just to get to a service station".

Don't take me too seriously! Others have lived to regret it!


Che Castro - April 21st, 2004 at 07:57 PM

hehe i havent ever had cold start problems so i'm lucky.

if you read the users manual that comes with the car from the factory it says it is designed to be driven away straight away.

there is the argument that driving it straight away will warm it up quicker which reduces wear. The choke is there to compensate for icing in the carb in cold and/or humid weather. The choke should be adjusted so it more or less matches the weather so the mixture the engine receives during warmup is just richness to compensate for the icing.

chokes arent necessary if you have dual carbs because the manifolds are only inches from the heads. Its the damn stock manifold that suffers from icing problems.


Y2K - April 21st, 2004 at 08:14 PM

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Originally posted by Mick H


You live at the wrong end of the state!!!! Too close to the Mexicans...........:thumb



He he he ......im a mexican but i class myself more like a queenslander. But it still gets cold here in winter. Gets down to about zero most mornings.

But then again i only have to put my ass in my heated seats and all is good......mmmmmm gotta love technology. :P:thumb:thumb:thumb:thumb:thumb


65busser - April 25th, 2004 at 12:57 AM

Lee's right!


fish - April 25th, 2004 at 05:42 AM

No choke, no pumpin the gas, just start and drive to the surf, no problems. Ahh queensland bootifull one day purfect the next. ah!!!!


vwombat - April 25th, 2004 at 09:45 AM

Yeah, there may be a lot of rednecks up here,
but at least we've got that!

Surf's up Dude!


Flying VW - April 25th, 2004 at 11:56 AM

In the Winter my Baja never warms up.