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ikube - May 11th, 2004 at 03:03 PM

My baby is lowered, looks great but whenever I turn right, my left wheels seems to scrap the front guards... this doesn't happen to my right wheels.. only the left ... does it mean the ride height is uneven ? or my left side is heavier ?

Besides this problem ... want to ask what are the other options if I don't want my guards to get scratches ? I tried to not make full steer and lock the steering for a turn.

:(

[Edited on 11-5-2004 by ikube]


Stanley - May 11th, 2004 at 03:35 PM

Hmmm...funny mine does exactly the same thing. I found a slight remedy by gently massaging the guard out on that side, still does it but not as much.

Even funnier my hilux ute does exactly the same thing.


ikube - May 11th, 2004 at 03:50 PM

Kafer69, lets wait & see if anyone knows anything about this :P


XXX-1.8T - May 11th, 2004 at 04:01 PM

got any pics of ur ride ikube?

mine will get lowered soon :)


ikube - May 11th, 2004 at 04:04 PM

yup~ i'll take some shots of the scraping part~ keep posted :)


buzzbug - May 11th, 2004 at 04:05 PM

my 76 does it also.
but mine only scrapes on the left.


~air fooled~ - May 11th, 2004 at 04:17 PM

stop taking corners on two wheels maybe..............;)


ikube - May 11th, 2004 at 04:19 PM

loL~ :P

~~ I wonder -- I wonder -- I wonder ... ~~


PHAT BUG - May 11th, 2004 at 05:08 PM

Could be that your front gaurds are different, eg: one could be an aftermarket one, and ive seen bugs with the front end up to about 1/2 an inch more one way than the other.


buzzbug - May 11th, 2004 at 05:30 PM

thats possible,
i know that my rear ones are different sizes


ikube - May 11th, 2004 at 06:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by XXX-1.8T
got any pics of ur ride ikube?

mine will get lowered soon :)



Scrape :(

[Edited on 11-5-2004 by ikube]


ikube - May 11th, 2004 at 06:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by XXX-1.8T
got any pics of ur ride ikube?

mine will get lowered soon :)



My Ride ;)


ikube - May 11th, 2004 at 06:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by XXX-1.8T
got any pics of ur ride ikube?

mine will get lowered soon :)



My Ride ;)


VWFOOL - May 11th, 2004 at 06:14 PM

id love to walk up to that car and own it...


pod - May 11th, 2004 at 06:15 PM

aint that sweet:D


VWFOOL - May 11th, 2004 at 06:31 PM

r u going as low as that costa.
if so im going to join you...


Desert Moose - May 11th, 2004 at 06:41 PM

Its a bit hard not being in Melbourne to look at it but first park the car on flat ground. take a tape to it...as in from the pan ground right and left in the same spots and the same with the beam. Also look at the rear ! if the rear is out a little it make the front out a lot. If the ride hight is different the setback of the wheel will be as well.
second and I don't think it will be but caster or even camber some people set camber up by the 7mm rule (7mm between the upper and lower arm) and got 5 and 3 on the shims but if the stubs a bit out the camber can change

I hope I helped
:alien


twoguns - May 11th, 2004 at 06:42 PM

you could go a lower profile. say 195/50s or even 45's. this would clear the guard a bit more, and lower you bug even more. taht was the diametre i used on the front of mine.


ikube - May 11th, 2004 at 06:42 PM

thanks guys ^_^


Hey VWFOOL, saw your "Taxi" @ the Nats went and took a very close look!
Want to join your site, will send u Email with Pics :)


ikube - May 11th, 2004 at 06:45 PM

hi twoguns any pics ? Would be interested in taking a peek @_@...


DubCrazy - May 11th, 2004 at 06:50 PM

what size tyres are you running? and is it a shortened beam?


with a standard beam with swayaway adjusters with standard shocks will let you get 185/65/15's with about a 2 mm gap from edge of tyre and guard out rubbing.note you will have no suspension travel and it will hop and be a bumpy ride

with a shortened beam you will get lower but your tyre width has to drop,depending on how low you go on tyre size.e.g a floor scrapper will only allow 135/60/15's


this is rought guide and it will differ from car to car but its a main guide line. Something else you mite have to look at is where the beam is sitting as it mite be a mm or two different from side to side. Its quite comman for this from factory and can be sorted out with a little work...


steff.......................


VWFOOL - May 11th, 2004 at 06:55 PM

send it on thru ikube, you're more than welcome. wat did u thnk of the taxi?
remeber to add a little story to go with the pics.

sam
vwfool@hotmail.com


DubCrazy - May 11th, 2004 at 06:56 PM

this was my old car with the standard width beam and 185/65/15's and it didnt rub but it was a very bumpy ride :)


ikube - May 11th, 2004 at 07:48 PM

Cool~! Will look into the beams closely ...


Stanley - May 11th, 2004 at 08:06 PM

With it that low you've got to expect some problems hence narrowed beams

As I said mines the same and I run 165's, only does it on the left hand side

My guards are original as far as i've been told but there is a definate difference in the gap between tyre and guard.


LOWBUG - May 11th, 2004 at 08:48 PM

Dude, Its a common prob.

The only way to fix it properly is to go to drop spindles and narrow your beam. You'll get ride back, your tyres won't scrub out and your braking will improve because of weight transfer over your wheels.

Everything costs........

Good luck


ikube - May 11th, 2004 at 09:14 PM

If i leave it scratching, what eventually will happen ? can I just leave it ? will it crack someday and break apart ? or catch on fire ?!!!!

please advise.

Thanks !


twoguns - May 11th, 2004 at 09:43 PM

or you can split and widen some guards 50mm. which is what i had done front and rear of mine...

ikube per your ask...


BenettonVW - May 11th, 2004 at 09:53 PM

This has been an ol' sparring partner of mine for a few years now.. You wanna hear the Notch.. Sheeesus..
Imagine driving along the road, there is suddenly a pot hole or raised bump.. My car, if not careful, will bottom out on the bottom of the shock tower...(try to imagine) My shock tower is an inch off the ground at the front..

A few options, some have been mentioned. Narrowed beam, reducing track, and bringing the wheels closer to the body. It also moves the wheels into the higher section of the Beetles guard, giving it a little more space that way too.

I also run thinner tyres, 135's, on the front, shifting the tyre again, closer to the body, but not a recommended thing to do if you corner quickly or anything like that.. Not much tyre here people, so purely looks and practicality when turning like in the above situations..

There are alternative options, but much more extreme, such as hydrolic or airbag suspension, but these are not cheap.


Kai.A. - May 11th, 2004 at 10:09 PM

the main reason that old vee dubs seem to have a wheel rub, or stick out one side more than the other, etc, is that they are old, and back then tolerences were measured with someones thumb, while they squinted and stuck their tongue out..... not with micrometers and other fancy gadgetry.

also, with beetles, the curve of the wings is apparently quite difficult to replicate..... how many bugs have the original wings, no dents, no repairs.... you might have a mexican one on one side and another random repro on the other, this would easily explain a tyre rubbing.....

well, there's my 2 cents worth...

kai