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sand kombi - March 18th, 2003 at 12:14 AM

Iam wondering what fuel consumption every body gets with their drives and what fuel they use.
I use ulp [never woolies fuel again no matter what you save it's not worth it]and get approx 20mpg[around 320km to 45lt of fuel],I drive a kombi with a 2ltr non injected with a 1600 bearbox ,would this be a average for a kombi
What about beetles , type 3's &water cooled models


555bug - March 18th, 2003 at 02:26 AM

my stock 1600tp bug gets around 10km/L so a bit better :) although a bus is shaped like a large brick


Phil74Camper - March 18th, 2003 at 06:53 AM

Yes your consumption sounds very good, that's about right for a Kombi.

Everyone should be using ULP in their VWs, as we've been advising for ages. Stock VWs can use normal cheap ULP, and modified VWs can use PULP if ordinary ULP makes them ping.

Don't use LRP - it's crap. VWs are already built for unleaded fuel and don't require a lead replacement of any sort.

I've also heard bad stories about Woolies' petrol - high in ethanol so I hear. Stick to name brand stations and you should be OK - they all claim to have no ethanol in their fuel.


kombikim - March 18th, 2003 at 07:20 AM

our 2L auto camper is now getting 17.9 mpg round town & 22.9 on it's 1st real trip outa town (Sydney - Nowra, LOTS of HILLS) -


Bizarre - March 18th, 2003 at 11:22 AM

2L auto 1982

3000 kms around town - real short trips
16.5 mpg

just under 6 km/l or 16.5 l/100 km

A touch heavier than the Ford it replaced - but the room!


bluebus - March 18th, 2003 at 01:31 PM

When I did the figures on my last two fills, my 74 kombi 1800 was giving a bit over 8km/l, which I was pretty happy with.


Bizarre - March 18th, 2003 at 02:22 PM

Manual or auto ?

What sort of trips?

My kombi is a real kid tripper. The missus just lugs things all day in 5km trips!
The auto dont kick in to top till it has warmed up a bit - so it hardly see third!
Still - i need to up her a bit.
I want to put Webers on her but i need to get som shortie manifolds, or cut and shut a set of T4 ones.


bluebus - March 18th, 2003 at 05:46 PM

Mine's a manual, and a real kid-lugger too. At least half of my driving is of the shops/school/uni kind (between 1 & 7km trips).
The other half is probably more freeway style, or little country drives, but still not much more than 30 - 40 kms.
I only feed it ULP.


Che Castro - March 18th, 2003 at 06:08 PM

i get about 150 miles according to my speedo out of about 30L... that equates to 20mpg (us gallons)

its a 1600 SP in a 63' beetle

this is all in city/suburban type driving. lots of smallish trips


Bizarre - March 18th, 2003 at 07:21 PM

Jon

What the hell are you talking in US MPG for?

Talk about confusing the matter :P


KOM123 - March 18th, 2003 at 08:29 PM

320kms is probably on average what we get too (2ltr Kombi)


helbus - March 18th, 2003 at 09:39 PM

about 11 litres/100km in 1800 with 2litre box. Wheels are original diameter still.


Kafer Lover - March 18th, 2003 at 10:09 PM

Not real sure around town, but last trip I did to adelaide I worked out 7.3ltr/100km. which I was pretty happy with (1600tp)


Quickbug - March 19th, 2003 at 05:57 PM

Fuel?
OH!
Thats the stuff i have to pay for every couple of days!!
1916cc and 2180cc = lots of fuel usage.
Worth it tho ;)


geodon - March 19th, 2003 at 08:24 PM

I go Geelong to Port Campbell once a week. The K/G (1600TP) always does 12km/litre- the joys of steamlining!!!
The SC with the tilt & canopy (1600SP with 28PCI carb) was VERY interesting: in no hurry (50MPH) 8km/litre. Flat out (55MPH) 5km/litre- Never again thank you!!

[Edited on 19-3-2003 by geodon]


kafer70 - March 19th, 2003 at 08:59 PM

Let me get this straight.

You can use ulp in in a standard 1500 ?.
And pulp in a 1916.

I was told different. This is the best news I've heard for a while .


Quickbug - March 19th, 2003 at 09:45 PM

I use Optimax or Vortex etc in both the 1916cc and the 2180cc.
The 1916cc runs better on it and the 2180cc blew a hole in one head from usuing LRP.... wasnt told to use PULP or better :mad::mad:


hool - March 19th, 2003 at 09:47 PM

1994 VR6 manual, totally stock.

Around town about 16L/100klms, on trips about 9.5L/100klms. Always on Optimax or Mobil 8000, BP Ultimate.

Being a self-confessed mega leadfoot, the results aren't all that bad.

I have found from a number of ULP vehicles (not all VWs) that the high octane petrols usually give better economy than standard or premium ULP, not that you really notice a performance increase though..


Andy - March 20th, 2003 at 12:14 AM

My Brother did a 3 day round trip to Melb. from Brissy in a '91 wasserboxer single cab. He went down empty and came back with a little over 1 tonne in the back. He averaged just over 8km/L, and you can guess his speed seeing it was a 3 day trip!! Handled it great he said.

My stock 2L bay window bus averages ~7.5km/L but drops quickly if driven hard.

'73 beetle always gets ~11km/L city or highway. Beaudiful !!!

I long for the days of 36km/L on the 250cc bike I had :cool:

Or better still a few drops of oil per week (for the chain) on the pushbike :D:D

[Edited on 19-3-2003 by Andy]


vanderaj - March 20th, 2003 at 09:20 AM

Hmm. metric fuel economy figures are expressed in l/100 km, not km per l, l per km or UK or US mpg.

Anyway, Hoonbug the New Beetle 1.8t gets around 7.3 l/100 km in the country (and I don't spare the horses - I always drive at the speed limit unless conditions are bad). So far I've yet to get over 9.3 l/100 km under really bad conditions. I typically get high 8's for my usual fill (typically 10 days of stop-start city driving + short trips on weekends).

Very fuel efficient for my lead footed driving style. Everyone should have a turbo.

Andrew


aussiebug - March 20th, 2003 at 02:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Phil74Camper

I've also heard bad stories about Woolies' petrol - high in ethanol so I hear. Stick to name brand stations and you should be OK - they all claim to have no ethanol in their fuel.


Woolies petrol has an average of 2-3% MTBE (Methyl Tertiary Butyl Ether), and a maximum of 7%. They have this info on their web site.

No ethanol.

Woolies petrol is the only petrol in Aus which has MTBE, because it's imported petrol - MTBE is not made in Australia.

MTBE is the stuff added to many US fuels - up to 11% MTBE in California and Denver for example.

MTBE does make a carburetted engine run lean, 11% (in the USA) results in 2% used oxygen in the fuel, so there is 2% less "fuel" in the fuel.

The max 7% used in Woolies petrol would run the VW engine just over 1% lean.

And for info, my 1968 bug with 71 1600dp engine with the smaller 30PICT/2 carby and vacuum distributor, gets 33.5mpg.

My 1970 bug with 1600sp engine and the SAME 30PICT/2 carby was getting 36mpg before it got squashed by a nasty Ford.


aussiebug - March 20th, 2003 at 02:18 PM

And I also meant to say that in South Aus and West Aus, Woolies petrol has no MTBE, since oxygenates (MTBE, TAME, ETBE, Ethanol) are banned.

I guess that means we have better petrol in Adelaide :-)


Andy - March 20th, 2003 at 03:59 PM

I always use km/L. Why make things complicated??? You do x km and divide by how many liters added. Why all this conversion bull s**t???
:D:D:D


vanderaj - March 20th, 2003 at 05:41 PM

andy,

'cos the standard for fuel consumption that all metric countries says so. The old standard in Australia used to be miles per UK gallon. It would have been annoying to people back then if some people had used gallons per 100 miles, but luckily, they didn't.

It's l/100 km. Simple.

Andrew


Andy - March 20th, 2003 at 10:24 PM

Hey, I'm just stirrin' :thumb


vanderaj - March 20th, 2003 at 11:41 PM

So am I. :)

Andrew


1303Steve - March 21st, 2003 at 11:26 PM

Hi

I use Optimax in my 2.1 wasserboxer turbo bug and get around 10 - 12 litres per 100k around town. I keep an eye on my consumption buy filling up when I have done exactly 200 or 300 ks, then fill the car up and divide the ks traveled by 2 or 3 to give me my litres per 100.

1302Steve


Flying VW - March 23rd, 2003 at 11:39 AM

My twinport 1600 get's around 10 ltrs / 100 kms
and thats going at the speed limit.

My 5 Ltr XR 8 Falcon get's around 12 ltrs / 100 kms.

Just goes to show the advantages of modern technology and fuel injection.



[Edited on 23-3-2003 by Flying VW]


Che Castro - March 23rd, 2003 at 12:29 PM

heh yeah technology :)

although EFI on a worked VW motor can get great fuel consumption if u keep ur foot out of it.


steve is that consumption with easy driving in the city or do u like to floor it now and then?


1303Steve - March 23rd, 2003 at 04:50 PM

Hi

That figue is with the odd blast. Im oldest rev head in my area.

1302Steve :jesus