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Rural Baja - January 21st, 2006 at 09:34 PM

After looking through an old 1959 Launceston Examiner Newspaper, i noticed something.
It read.

VW COPIED

Volksfiatovitch is the irreveret name bestowed in Western Europe on the new russian, rear engined car.Though the car owes quite a lot to the Fiat 600, it's engine is almost a scaled down replica to the Volkswagen's. It is an air cooled flat four, with pushrod operated, verticle overhead valves, and it has the same compression ratio as the Vw. However, total capacity is only 750cc. (Against about 1197cc.) And the output is about 20mph compared with 36mph with the Volkswagen.




Does anyone have any pics of this rare beast???

Cheers 1963 Empi Radar.


Rural Baja - January 21st, 2006 at 09:36 PM

Weird huh???


LUFTMEISTER - January 21st, 2006 at 10:31 PM

the paper wasn't dated the 1st of april by any chance. aussie gee-up maybe?


Matt Ryan - January 21st, 2006 at 11:10 PM

Trying to find info on that car I came across this an air cooled V8!!!!

...a summary by Gareth Jones

The T603 project was begun in 1953, after the Czechoslovakian government issued the order for Tatra to design and build a car suitable for official duties, to replace the Volgas and ZILs that were used after production T87 ceased the previous year. The car would have six seats and an engine capacity of not more than 3.6 litres.

The heart of the new car was the newly developed 603 engine by Jiri Klos. A 2,545cc air-cooled V8, its specification was advanced; oversquare (75 x 72mm), with a single centre camshaft and hemispherical combustion chambers. The engine's first application was in the 4x4 T805, and in its 'military spec' it developed 75 bhp, but it had also been used in some interesting Tatra competition cars, like the T601 Tatraplan Montecarlo and the T602 and T607 sports racing cars. In the new T603 saloon, however, it produced 95 bhp at 5000 rpm.

will try to get a pic

Matt.

[ Edited on 21-1-2006 by Matt Ryan ]

[ Edited on 21-1-2006 by Matt Ryan ]

[ Edited on 21-1-2006 by Matt Ryan ]


Matt Ryan - January 22nd, 2006 at 12:04 AM

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f200/myran13/Early20T120engine2.jpg 

maybe this is better?


Matt Ryan - January 22nd, 2006 at 12:59 AM

1963 Empi Radar,

Here are some more pics, I think these are more like the ones talked about in that news paper article.They are called Tatra and were made in Czechoslovakia Apparrently they first surfaced in the 1930's and Adolph didn't like how similar they were to the KDF wagen, so he made them stop production. They resurfaced after the war and there have been many models since.

Start with this site:
http://tatraklub.tatraportal.sk/ 
or
http://www.tatra-register.co.uk/ 

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f200/myran13/t87blato2.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f200/myran13/t87mk.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f200/myran13/9987c.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f200/myran13/9987a.jpg

PS. HANDS UP WHO WANTS ONE!!!!!!!

[ Edited on 21-1-2006 by Matt Ryan ]


Rural Baja - January 24th, 2006 at 09:09 AM

Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Originally posted by DUBB61
the paper wasn't dated the 1st of april by any chance. aussie gee-up maybe?


No it wasn't. Think it was boxing day 1956 i think.

Thanks Matt Ryan but i think this is a different car.


I think


But this may be the car.
Thanks averyone for the information.

does anyone know anything about these cars??


Rural Baja - January 24th, 2006 at 09:10 AM

By the way. I wouldn't mind hooling up the beach in that Tatra!!!!
I WANT ONE!!!!!


winerot - January 24th, 2006 at 09:13 AM

maybe flash gordon knows about them:lol:


71superbug - January 24th, 2006 at 10:18 AM

in that second picture..is there no-one sitting in the front at the drivers seat but there is someone sitting in the back...reading a newspaper?

what a weirdo.


Anthony


Purple Martin - January 24th, 2006 at 04:36 PM

I bet the driver got out to take the pic!


Purple Martin - January 24th, 2006 at 04:38 PM

A split window Beetle and early Type 1 Karman Ghia sit with T87 and T600:

http://www.tatra-register.co.uk/pics/Beetle87.jpg


Purple Martin - January 24th, 2006 at 04:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Purple Martin
I bet the driver got out to take the pic!


I've worked it out! A guy named John Long and his wife went on a tour to the three oceans that surround North America in a restored 1947 Tatra T87. That is one of his photos, so that'll be his wife in the back, presumably looking at a map. Here is his website with the story of the tour, and plenty of great pics:
http://www.openthinkinc.com/tatra/ 


555bug - January 25th, 2006 at 11:51 PM

guy harding up here in Brisbane had a Tatra (might still have it), apparently you need to sleep with a lot of people to get one out :)


Spook - January 26th, 2006 at 11:29 AM

With the triple lights & boat tail rear, I think it has more in common with the American Tucker.


Spook - January 26th, 2006 at 11:30 AM

Tucker


modulus - January 26th, 2006 at 04:18 PM

Whilst looking for VW information I got the drag co-efficient of the 1934 Tatra T77 - wait for it - 0.212 !

And that was with a three-flat-piece windscreen.


[ Edited on 26-1-06 by modulus ]


Rural Baja - January 29th, 2006 at 11:44 AM

Anything else on this car???


Matt Ryan - January 29th, 2006 at 06:20 PM

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Originally posted by 1963 Empi Radar
Anything else on this car???


I found plenty on the web just by typing tatra into google. Also plenty for tucker.

Matt.


Guy_H - February 14th, 2006 at 09:51 AM

I still have the Tatra (Tatraplan T600) - its a nice rust free 1951' version with a truckload of parts - Aussie delivered RHD.

Someone please buy it off me & restore it - its a really cool ride :blush:


http://home.clara.net/peterfrost/tatt600r.jpg

[ Edited on 13-2-2006 by Guy_H ]


Guy_H - February 14th, 2006 at 10:01 AM

:P

http://www.tatra.demon.nl/images/Cars_History/T600-1.jpg


baybuscamperkid - February 14th, 2006 at 11:39 AM

what are you asking for it?

Quote:
Originally posted by Guy_H
I still have the Tatra (Tatraplan T600) - its a nice rust free 1951' version with a truckload of parts - Aussie delivered RHD.

Someone please buy it off me & restore it - its a really cool ride :blush:[ Edited on 13-2-2006 by Guy_H ]


Guy_H - February 16th, 2006 at 01:55 PM

Quote:

what are you asking for it?



6k - comes with 3 motors, heaps of spares, a mountain of literature, original handbooks & workshop manual - hell, I even think it has the original sales invoices!