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vanderaj - March 31st, 2003 at 07:51 PM

Politicians want to repeal the exemption to pre-1974 cars from emissions regs. If it happens, say sayonara to all pre-1974 cars.

http://www.sema.org/content/?ID=31171&criteria=708 

Check it out.

Andrew


KruizinKombi - March 31st, 2003 at 07:52 PM

Sad to see that happen anywhere, but the upside is that maybe they'll stop wanting ours!


silver - March 31st, 2003 at 08:27 PM

Won't they just have to modify the car's to meet the regulations?


vanderaj - March 31st, 2003 at 08:46 PM

But 1100 and 1200's won't be correct then

And I don't know how you can really do that to really nice correct stock cars. Think of all the nice KG's running around there?

But yes, I suppose if you didn't mind not being stock, adding some post-1974 EGR and other emissions stuff on them will let them pass, if they can still run with all that gear on them.

Andrew


Quickbug - March 31st, 2003 at 09:01 PM

WAHOO!!
It means CRAPLOADS of excellent cheap cars for us!!

:D

Oh but bad for them :P :(


SKEWtYpe3 - March 31st, 2003 at 09:02 PM

cant they just strap on one of those emissions things to pass the test then stock it up as per normal after...?
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vw54 - March 31st, 2003 at 09:30 PM

They have been trying to do that for years now...

A country that allows you to carry a rifle anwhere ... is trying to ban old cars... those politions dont want to keep there jobs thats for sure.


SKEWtYpe3 - March 31st, 2003 at 09:42 PM

what you jst said dave reminded me of a great movie showing americas true colours
its called "bowling for Columbine" by micheal more, some of u might know it, it is mind blowing how stuffed there system is.
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Dasdubber - March 31st, 2003 at 09:53 PM

IMO I don't think it will happen - but if it does, just think of how many aftermarket businesses may shut down - and then price of parts would probably go up. Just thinking aloud!

Maybe I'm just being cynical:alien


SKEWtYpe3 - March 31st, 2003 at 11:15 PM

das has a good point, it will put alot of ppl out of business.......
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Quickbug - April 1st, 2003 at 11:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 62kombieute
i was talking to an engine balancer in bris the other day and was saying that they are going to bring that here too in the next five years or so

dont quote me on this info it was only one mans say so


Yeah i heard that 5 or 6 years ago...
I dont think it will happen there or here.
They are just trying to kill all the older engines with that LRP crap....
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70AutoStik - April 2nd, 2003 at 12:08 AM

Actually, the last time that was proposed to our parliament was last year... There are always "greenies" who want to introduce blanket legislation to get all old cars off the road. Fortunately, our brothers in the Vintage scene are well organised (and a lot of pollies have the cash to keep historic cars in their garages,) but write to your local member and tell him you are a "Vintage" car fanatic (30 years is the cutoff - which includes most of us.)

I admit I am on the side of being able to modify a car on a reasonable budget, but we also must remember the need to preserve the heritage of our motor industry (Australia still has a name for automotive ingenuity and it has always been guys like us that have come up with the goods.)


shiftyvw - April 2nd, 2003 at 08:25 PM

What your talkin about may be emmisionstesting on a yearly basis which has been proposed and will be bought in sooner or later. But most liklly you would only need to comply with the relevent ADR standards for your model year. Cant wait till this happens, it means cheap ass people who drive around in smokey (*^boxes will either have to pay to get them fixed or sell them... cheap preferably:)


68AutoBug - April 3rd, 2003 at 09:00 PM

[size=4]It IS illegal to have smoke coming from Your exhaust in NSW... - but for a Diesel - I think they are allowed to blow a bit of exhaust smoke (unburnt fuel) for 3 seconds or something similar. I have a Nephew Who has a late model Diesel 4WD Ute and He was charged with exceeding the smoke limit , at the same time He was photographed by a red light camera... which showed NO Smoke... He took them both to court and beat them , as the photo showed NO smoke while He was accelerating thru the intersection... ( it was a very large intersection ) & HE didn't USE a Solicitor or Lawyer..... this was last year..in Sydney [/size]:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce:bounce


68AutoBug - April 3rd, 2003 at 09:15 PM

Late model Beetles & Karmann Cabriolets in California HAD to meet the emission requirements of the day, which is why they had fuel injection etc to conform .
I don't believe any government will try to make older model cars pass any Later emissions tests - only for their Year of Manufacture...
ONLY cars with computer controlled Fuel INjection & electronic ignition along with Catalytic converters have any chance of passing todays rigid pollution tests...
The Sulpur Content in Aussie Diesel fuel has just been decreased as it caused problems....

Quote:
Originally posted by vanderaj
Politicians want to repeal the exemption to pre-1974 cars from emissions regs. If it happens, say sayonara to all pre-1974 cars.

Andrew


Go the Coalition Forces GO !!
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70AutoStik - April 3rd, 2003 at 09:41 PM

Actually, no. There have been a number of attempts in Australia to ban normal registration for pre-emissions cars. All that would be left is the "restricted" regos: club, vintage, special vehicle (which are usually only allowed to be driven on a limited number of days per year - except the "special," of course.)

Fortunately, they have all been defeated up till now - but we must continue to be vigilant and ready to remind our pollies who elects them! Pollies generally don't care a roo's poo about their constituents, but they care about being re-elected.