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They're raffling a splittie
volcboy47 - August 24th, 2006 at 06:24 PM

In Melbourne Central shopping hell. It's the blue splittie that is in the Telstra ads.

I haven't had a look - a friend told me. I might have to go and have a squiz and buy a ticket or two.

Anyone know where this Kombi came from?


megalania - August 24th, 2006 at 06:33 PM

perhaps germany?:)I heard it was actually a bay window that they were going to raffle. Tell us what you see there.


ColumBUS - August 24th, 2006 at 06:35 PM

the blue splitty belongs to matt, an aussie, in nsw... and i have a feeling its a bay window thats being raffled... i dont think matt would raffle his splitty off...


type_one - August 24th, 2006 at 09:08 PM

I have seen this thing in Sydney and it's a joke. It's a blue bay. Not a splitty and definitely not Matt's splitty. There flyer has it on it but it is not the car in the raffle.


crewcabconnection - August 24th, 2006 at 10:21 PM

that kind of sums up Telstra really ... what they seem to offer is not actually what you get. Should be 'Ive been dropped out everywhere maan', or 'I've been slowed to 56k again maan'. High time Telstra took the reduction hubs off DSL and gave us the same speed the rest of the planet gets. Matt had some great photos at Valla of the film shoot they did....no they are not raffling off Matts, due to the falling share price, Sol can't afford it.


warb - August 24th, 2006 at 10:29 PM

haha... yes, they are cocks not investing in faster speeds... however sol blames ACCC for the shortfall.. he does not want to 'pick the pockets of the shareholders to fund national infrastructure' .... when the share price is rock bottom, don’t want to invest in the company.... bah,,,

fuck that.. I just want fast internet....


... also. i agree, put a sweet arse bus in the ads and try to palm off a bay... sums it all up realy..


Wild1 - August 24th, 2006 at 10:37 PM

i don't think they could get away with that though.. you could get them for misrepresentation (tort of deceit) or possibly even breach of condition if you were creative ;)


Wild1 - August 24th, 2006 at 10:38 PM

but you could only sue if you won:td:


Schmoburger - August 24th, 2006 at 10:46 PM

I know this can of worms got opened up before and the shit hit the fan bigtime.... but I wouldnt complain about getting another bay for peanuts! :duh

Maybe I'm a little biased in expressing the above opinion, but really... what is there too complain about?... a bay will set ya back a good 5 or 6 grand for one in decent condition... and I might add that this one in the Telstra promotion had rather a lot of work put into it if I recall AND is an automatic! :tu:

Stop and sniff the roses people!:rolleyes::kiss:

Teh Schmeauxfather


ByronBug - August 24th, 2006 at 10:46 PM

matt is the owner of the 'telstra' one but not that one they are raffling.
What does it read in the advertising? ..does it say its a "splitty" or a "kombi"...false advertising there if they state its a split....


Ich fahre ein Kdf ein Tag - August 24th, 2006 at 10:51 PM

Was chatting about this with a couple of mates tonight...down in Tassie dont have the fast optics and dont look like getting em either...apparently shareholders are more important than new customers. Problem is Telstra wants a monopoly, if the cables are put down they want to own them outright, no piggy backing by other companies using there stuff...so it seems it will never happen. It is all buggered until the federal gov gets of it's proverbial and sells the 50 odd percent to the public.


Schmoburger - August 24th, 2006 at 10:51 PM

I am almost certain that the advertising I saw from the outset merely said Kombi... :)

So they are clean... :tu:

I still hate Telstra... but I just find this Kombi gripe a bit old and shallow and somewhat silly... :kiss


crewcabconnection - August 24th, 2006 at 10:58 PM

Matts is not a Kombi, it's a Microbus. Its a completely different thing.


Wild1 - August 24th, 2006 at 11:07 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Schmoburger
I know this can of worms got opened up before and the shit hit the fan bigtime.... but I wouldnt complain about getting another bay for peanuts! :duh


I take your point Schmo, and I'd take it any day :bounce

The point is though that it's unfair of them to be so misleading in their advertising. I could forgive most companies, but not one so big as Telstra for such a fundamental mistake.

I think it is clearly misrepresentation, as it is a statement of fact that induces one party into the contract. It would be hard to prove that it was anything other than an innocent misrepresentationt though, as to take action under a tort of deceit would mean having to prove that the misrepresentation was wilfully false and also that you have suffered loss or damage.

It's a bit of a long shot, but if you go up to the person selling the lottery ticket and point to the splittie on the flyer and ask, 'Is that the car that you're raffling away?' and if they says yes, then ask again. If they say yes again (and you won), then you could probably claim that it was a condition, as it was so essential that if it hadn't been a splittie you wouldn't have entered into the contract.

I'm getting all too carried away, but it's all good fun..
The things you do when you're bored :crazy:

But yes, a bay any day!


Wild1 - August 24th, 2006 at 11:11 PM

oh, and I think we need a wholly-owned government telco because private companies are very reluctant to spend the big capital it takes to invest in infrastructure. The government doesn't need it's telco to be profitable, however, as long as it's good for the people. I mean, sure, you can depreciate the infrastucture assets over their assumed useful life (which would be pretty long), but it's still a fair dent in their operational earnings


crewcabconnection - August 24th, 2006 at 11:24 PM

Telstra customers left in droves due to the crap service and general attitude, the DSL speed issue may not have been an issue if they had looked after the people that owned them (us). They want it both ways, and in the mean time spend money in 'brand building' and front of house, but at the end of the day, convergence in global communications and DSL will continue to errode their AU market share. As Telcos globally are not seen by investors as a 'good idea', then they will stuggle to get back to their list price, let alone a profit to their shareholders.

It the open up the throttle on DSL - which they can do of coax - they just wont fess up to it - then VOIP will be better, and faster and they open themselves up to even more problems. It is not in Telstras interests to open up the throttles, as they will be obliged to let Optus et al, benefit from it too, and they out perform them. Then VOIP gets up on mobiles and landlines ... and they loose again.

I agree, Australia needs a government funded Telco, and concentrate on what the country needs, rather than giving shareholders a return - which is minimal as T2 is a joke.

Lets hope that Matt made some money out of them. The ad is a scam, but then it comes out of some marketing morons brain, who probably has no idea what the actual prize is anyway, a kombi is a kombi.


Schmoburger - August 25th, 2006 at 12:12 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wild1
Quote:
Originally posted by Schmoburger
I know this can of worms got opened up before and the shit hit the fan bigtime.... but I wouldnt complain about getting another bay for peanuts! :duh


I take your point Schmo, and I'd take it any day :bounce

The point is though that it's unfair of them to be so misleading in their advertising. I could forgive most companies, but not one so big as Telstra for such a fundamental mistake.

I think it is clearly misrepresentation, as it is a statement of fact that induces one party into the contract. It would be hard to prove that it was anything other than an innocent misrepresentationt though, as to take action under a tort of deceit would mean having to prove that the misrepresentation was wilfully false and also that you have suffered loss or damage.

It's a bit of a long shot, but if you go up to the person selling the lottery ticket and point to the splittie on the flyer and ask, 'Is that the car that you're raffling away?' and if they says yes, then ask again. If they say yes again (and you won), then you could probably claim that it was a condition, as it was so essential that if it hadn't been a splittie you wouldn't have entered into the contract.

I'm getting all too carried away, but it's all good fun..
The things you do when you're bored :crazy:

But yes, a bay any day!


True marty, your point is equally valid good sir... but we all must ask ourself this question...

Would we complain if they advertised a bay and gave us a splitty? :dork: :lol: OK... I would... maybe you would.. but still LOL.. plenty of folks wouldnt! :lol:

OK.. I'm just joining in the fun and being a total knob now... so nothing I say in this post or subsequent posts is not to be taken seriously until further notice!... except that is the bit about this post not at all being serious.... that is to be taken dead seriously! :crazy: :lol:

Now what could possibl;y have happened to bajachris.. I'm surprised at not seeing his 2 bob worth thus far in this thread! :duh

it is actually quite refreshing.. but anyway... *trails off into oblivion*

[ Edited on 24-8-2006 by Schmoburger ]

[ Edited on 24-8-2006 by Schmoburger ]


frog - August 25th, 2006 at 12:24 AM

It's a bay and scary under the paint.


Schmoburger - August 25th, 2006 at 01:07 AM

Oh well... even still.. who would sniff at a chance to get a $5 type 4 engine and gearbox? :lol:


megalania - August 25th, 2006 at 07:47 AM

I agree with Kieren, I would happily take a free bay, be it with a crap undercoat or nor, but I also agree that telstra is crap.They are two separate topics. I feel sorry for all the mum and dad investors that paid I think $7 a share and now they are worth a kick in the arse.

So..... a chance to win a free bay -good on ya Telstra
...... performances over DSL, country australia and general maintenance - go get screwed sol!


pete wood - August 25th, 2006 at 09:23 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by crewcabconnection
High time Telstra took the reduction hubs off DSL and gave us the same speed the rest of the planet gets.


maybe they need a straight axle conversion off an Optus beetle. :lol:

You know telstra (telecom) used to have orange bay service vans. Really cool. I remember em as a little kid. Maybe it's one of those...NOT LIKELY.

I had a rotten Telstra woman ring me on my private mobile number yesterday to offer me "a better deal" on my prepaid. I politely told them to go away. And that if I wanted them I'd contact them. They must be getting very desperate if they are bothering to harrass prepaid customers, the scum of the mobile world.


Schmoburger - August 25th, 2006 at 09:56 AM

did she speak with a funny accent? :lol:


wezley - August 25th, 2006 at 10:03 AM

Does anyone have a pic of it?


pete wood - August 25th, 2006 at 10:11 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Schmoburger
did she speak with a funny accent? :lol:


what do you reckon? lets just say it's the sort I normally expect when ordering vegetable korma and butter chicken from the local takeaway. ;)


71superbug - August 25th, 2006 at 01:01 PM

nothing wrong with the indian accent.

Anthony


Schmoburger - August 25th, 2006 at 04:23 PM

Generally sounds Fillippin most of the time! :lol:


TCB_GHIA - August 25th, 2006 at 04:33 PM

in india i agree:yes: