I hate the cop in a blue XR6 that cruises wollongong.

I was stopped at lights behind a green p plater in an older Polo. He stalled it when the lights went green. Took a bit of starting in his flustered state. When he did get going he lurched forward with a chirp before driving off normally.

A cop coming the other way did an illegal u turn and overtook 2 cars in a narrow street just to pull the guy over. He'll probably lose his licence for stalling. Its not like he was a hoon smoking it up for fun. It wouldnt have raised an eyebrow except for the P plate. I feel like I should have stopped and offered my services as a witness for the poor kid. Life sucks when you are in the cross hairs of a powered up "law enforcer".

all power corrupts.. yet another example..

.... of course you are assuming that that was the reason the cop pulled him over.

Agreed. I make this assumption as I was following the Polo for a km or so from my gym and saw no other reason.

i looked at this thread thinking that it was about the new victorian p plate rules......a p platers life is bad enough when the so called law enforcers are picking on them.......but the new laws in vic are fair dinkum draconian!!!! if my 15yo son has it right, then p's will have to be displayed for 2 years, then another year without them...no driving after 10pm, no more than 1 passenger, if the fuzz think you're a hoon they'll confiscate your car, thats NO PROOF just if they think you are.....we might have this cocked up but its ordinary...VERY ORDINARY

i've heard the arguments over the years "that most deaths are in the 18-21 group" well DER!!....of course they have the most accidents, they are the least experienced....in 1977, new drivers in Helsinki(of all places) had to pay the equivalent of AU$500 to get their license, which in those days was about 6 weeks pay, these days maybe AU$6000, they had to show that they could control a car in all sorts of conditions....ice/snow, night driving, country city h/ways everything......if the rule makers were fair dinkum about saving lives and not just revenue raising then why not instigate the same system here?

off the soapbox

I never knew that stalling a vehicle was an "offence"?
An inconvenience as it always happens at an imprompteu moment but certainaly nothing more surely?
Sounds like the traffic division in Wollongong have a quota to meet if they are getting people for such innane traffic indescretions.
- Adam

as usual the clowns and fool really screw it for the really decent kids whitch there are maney it's just that a young kid doing the right thing is not a news item only the few clowns are

i got pulled over twice between punt road and glenferrie road at 11am last wednesday.

the female cop alleged that she'd been 'chasing' me from punt road. (it'd been bumper to bumper from there) to just before the power street turnoff in hawthorn where she caught up to me.

then i drove up riversdale road..turned left onto glenferrie..and bang another cop pulls me over.

didn't even get 2kms.

all this in a stock red 97 golf with p-plates and driving lights

mmmmm...and what exactly was alleged that was wrong?

P plates attract the Police... Highway patrol...
Maybe an easy target...

I read that New Laws for L plates etc started in NSW on
1st July....
I presume P plate rules have changed too...

I did see on TV where young people were lined up to get their P plate licence on 31st June....

Lee

last year i bought an import skyline manual turbo ect...

COP MAGNET!! to get the cops off my back i changed it into my mum`s name so they`d leave me alone haha got pulled over once after that just goes to show that if the cars registered in a "P" platers name they wanna get ya...

i'm all for much tougher rules for p plate'ers and for cops 'harassing' em. If cops keep on the back of the p platers, perhaps the culture of being a dickhead in your mums commondore will one day seam less cool. Sure there are competent, responsible p plate'ers but lifes not fair, get over it. Its only 2 years of your driving life.
cheers!
Jim

...Or he may have been wanted on other charges (Like drugs etc.. who knows?)

I also agree that we need more compulsory training first, not just harsher punishments.


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the nsw government has implicated new rules in order to restrict P-Platers and raise revenue...

...however, there is still no compulsory drivers education in high school, only what your parents can teach you in their own cars...

but then again why not let these kids learn in one car, drive another, and cop the fines (let along the tragic accidents that occur). i mean really, this practice raises revenue! heaven forbid we might have to spejd some in order ri survive

My middle son got his P's the other day. Just made it before the new rules come into Qld. However I have imposed a curfew of 10.00pm if he wants to drive his car. After 3 months it will be reviewed. He's cool with it as he realises that he is inexperienced. He is also doing a defensive driving course now he has his car. Better to know what to do in an emergency situation before it becomes an emergency situation in my books.
On more than one occasion I have been driving along only to find some f#*kwit drifting around a corner in front of me with a car full of mates. Yet when they eventually come unstuck have you ever noticed more often than not the driver survives...go figure

Me I have no problem with the new rules except they should have started years ago

Life isnt fair but that doesnt mean we have lay down like spinelss jellyfish and accept it. In this country we are all supposed to have equal rights. If I am speeding down the road at the same speed as anybody else we are both as guilty as each other. There should be no favourite targets.

I've had this argument before... nobody should be able to place others llives at risk for such little gain. U turns at traffic lights are illegal in NSW. I presume they are illegal because the RTA believes it isnt safe otherwise what would be the point of the law. On a busy narrow street the patrol car illegally overtook me and the car behind. If someone had pulled out of their driveway to go left at this point, they would have possibly been killed, if not they would have been injured.

All because some kid chirped his wheels after stalling. Fair enough if I had heard radio reports of an armed robbery or major drug deal using a polo as a getaway car, but thats highly unlikely. So yes some may say that I have no right to speak until my family member has been killed by a p-plater. But perhaps they have no right to speak until they have had a family member killed by a patrol car being a dick. Per capita there are a very high number of police crashes on our roads. Perhaps they should have 1 strike you're out licences as well.

I have no great problem with the rules. Its the application.

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Originally posted by vsleepy i'm all for much tougher rules for p plate'ers and for cops 'harassing' em. If cops keep on the back of the p platers, perhaps the culture of being a dickhead in your mums commondore will one day seam less cool. Sure there are competent, responsible p plate'ers but lifes not fair, get over it. Its only 2 years of your driving life. cheers! Jim

Hi

That guy was very unlucky to be seen doing what he did as there doesn't seem to be any highway patrol cops around any more.

Steve

On my motorbike my parents restricted me to daytime driving and not in the rain. This was a fair situation as I had ZERO experience on roadbikes and accepted that I was a beginner.

However they were fine with me in the car on P-Plates because I've been involved in motorsport and advanced driving for most of my life. I can handle a car, i've seen the results of accidents, and I was taught by sensible professional drivers. (ie. Keep it on the track, not on the roads)

I never got hassled by the police for wearing P-Plates, but I made the decision to drive without them because of the stupidity of other P-Platers trying to prove that they were a better driver than me. I'd just roll my eyes and think to myself "you missed a gear, your hands are positioned wrong, the inertia isn't in balance, I wonder if one day you'll learn the reason why your car does one-wheeled burnouts"

Unfortunately, they will probabaly never be taught... They'll just learn 'from experience' the wrong way to 'handle' their cars, and make excuses for their dangerous selfishness on the road. (Yes... I'm generalising, but when something happens open enough it falls into the 'general' category)

Better education is what we need, not more laws.

That cop probably had his reasons... He might've just had a chat with the guy about it.

Oh... and believe it or not, Police are highly trained drivers and the road rules state that they can breach road rules if it is: a) Safe to do so, according to the officers judgement, and b) in the course of their duties.

I don't support revenue raising activities and neither do most Police. Give them a f***ing break... they are trying to keep you alive!

Lucky we don't get any trouble in qld.

my mate and i both own gen 5 celicas, both slick coupe's, neither of us have been pulled ova once. i have only had my licence for 8 months now, my mate is about a yr and a half, and the closest call we had put together was when he was in his mates ford lazer, we were pulled ova in the carpark, and the police breath tested him before he even started the engine.

(the other occupants and myself attracted attention with our alcohol induced ranting and hyperactivity.)

Gotta luv qld...