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KIP closings its doors? (Kombis in Paradise)
The Brewmaster - October 15th, 2008 at 06:45 PM

Had a PM this afternoon from a very reliable source that KIP has closed its doors ...................

Whilst not confirmed from other sources yet ...................... I hope that if this is the case that people who had a vehicle being restored there can get a chance to get their vehicle away from the premises.

We'll all have to wait and see whether this rumour is true ......

Brett


LUFTMEISTER - October 15th, 2008 at 06:50 PM

what or who is KIP?


The Brewmaster - October 15th, 2008 at 07:06 PM

KIP ......Kombis in Paradise......on the Gold Coast


Warrenm - October 15th, 2008 at 07:06 PM

You should be glad you don't know:blush:


The Brewmaster - October 18th, 2008 at 09:49 AM

Unfortunately the rumour is true ..... Kombis in Paradise, a resto business on the Gold Coast has shut its doors and left a lot of kombi owners in the lurch.

Customers from all over Australia have had to drop what they are doing and make arrangements to go to the Gold Coast themselves or arrange someone to go retrieve their unfinished restos from a business operator that has dropped off the face of the earth in the mines of North Queensland left the shop in charge of someone else and then decided to close the doors this week.

Many hopes and dreams of people wanting a kombi restored have been shattered and the it is best summed up by the words of a victim watching another retrieve his kombi .... an older man almost in tears at seeing what he was taking away ...... just a rolling shell .....

There is more on a thread on another forum and I hope the administrators and mods allow me to post that link and let it stay.

http://forums.kombiclub.com/showthread.php?t=16664 

The thread starts in September but heats up a little ... obviously ..... from the 16 th October post 8 onwards.

The last few days has seen many people try to contact those with vehicles at KIP to tell them that they need to get their buses off the premises.

On that note there is a list of the restos and owners that we are trying to confirm whether they have got their buses back so we can get in contact to tell them.

There are people from all over Australia and from various VW forums so just trying to find out if there is anyone who has been missed.

Here is the list we are trying to complete and others may wish to add names or details to:

Linnie – taken away on a tilt tray to Daltrim and when finished will be transported to down to Linnie in Sydney
MarkJC –
Chino – received mid-year from KIP
Emby (Matt) - picked up his bus a few months ago but missing is a shed load of parts that he's either had to replace for rego or don't miss.....
Edwina & Roger – driving from Woollongong yesterday to pick up bus from KIP’s trimmers who are owed $10K. At trimmers not at KIP.
jhp1 -
Laura & Keith/Steek -
Ashmannn1111 -
Glenn (Otis II) – taken away after being contacted by Roy
Matt -
Glen Secco -
Dave -
Euan/Funhunter - transported away a rolling shell
Col -
Khalid (this dude had 4 a 72 Bay, 56 Split, Bay DC and a Beetle) -
Leroy - took his bus away last Monday and forwarded an email and pm informing the news to a couple of other KIP clients ..... but don’t know which ones....... but heard from a couple that are coming up tomorrow (Friday) and over the weekend.
Al -
Gary -
Joh & Josh -
Holly -
Nick -
ev-kombi

Cheers
Brett


LUFTMEISTER - October 18th, 2008 at 12:07 PM

I have read the attached forum posts and noticed that there was alot of CA$H work being done without reciepts. I am sure the the Australia Tax Office would love to hear about this and they get priority even over secured creditors and will chase up with lots of zeal and real legal backing. :ninja: Just a thought.


The Brewmaster - October 18th, 2008 at 04:35 PM

The more I have got in contact with people the more crooked itseems KIP was.

Whilst there have been a lot of buses taken away from KIP there may be a few more difficult to access.

Because KIP owes money to some businesses some people can't access their kombi until they pay the money owed.

One bus is held at a trimmer's and the owners from Woollongong have to pay big $$$$ to get it back.

The start of the road blocks begins and this is where the dodginess may really come out.

He has really pissed a lot of people from all walks of life and every corner of Australia.


The Brewmaster - October 18th, 2008 at 06:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DUBB61
I have read the attached forum posts and noticed that there was alot of CA$H work being done without reciepts. I am sure the the Australia Tax Office would love to hear about this and they get priority even over secured creditors and will chase up with lots of zeal and real legal backing. :ninja: Just a thought.


I have been saying that for 18 months DUBB61.

I still can't see how this guy expect to get away with it and not have everybody after him.

Cheers
Brett


Craig Torrens - October 18th, 2008 at 06:32 PM

I think this maybe the place that apparently claimed to be an "agent" for Stan Pobjoy. I was told that he was telling people that he was fitting Pobjoy engines and charging $5K deposits........all for motors that were NEVER being built by Pobjoy.

Apparently there's a couple of places being reported to Stan up in QLD doing this trick........."cashing in" on Stan Pobjoys name........but I guess this is done in every industry.


The Brewmaster - October 19th, 2008 at 08:51 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Craig Torrens
I think this is the place that claimed to be an "agent" for Stan Pobjoy. He was telling people that he was fitting Pobjoy engines and misleading people into paying $5K deposits........all for motors that were NEVER being built by Pobjoy.

Apparently there's a couple of places up in QLD doing this trick........."cashing in" on Stan Pobjoys name.


This is not something I have heard .........

I think he always got a Gold Coast mechanical shop to do his mechanicals ..... but alas he often told them ..... just do this and only this and only paid that Gold Coast mechanical shop to do exactly what he asked ..... despite what else that should have been done mechanically....... and what that Gold Coast mechanical shop suggested.

Heard this from a couple of sources...... over the past 18 months.

Please don't read this as having a dig at that Gold Coast mechanical shop. Being told to do just such and such and only being paid


kroozzn63 - October 19th, 2008 at 09:57 AM

the crash extends on "doooooooooooooooooommmm and gloooooooooooooooooommm"


Craig Torrens - October 19th, 2008 at 10:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by The Brewmaster
Quote:
Originally posted by Craig Torrens
I think this is the place that claimed to be an "agent" for Stan Pobjoy. He was telling people that he was fitting Pobjoy engines and misleading people into paying $5K deposits........all for motors that were NEVER being built by Pobjoy.

Apparently there's a couple of places up in QLD doing this trick........."cashing in" on Stan Pobjoys name.


This is not something I have heard .........

I think he always got a Gold Coast mechanical shop to do his mechanicals ..... but alas he often told them ..... just do this and only this and only paid that Gold Coast mechanical shop to do exactly what he asked ..... despite what else that should have been done mechanically....... and what that Gold Coast mechanical shop suggested.

Heard this from a couple of sources...... over the past 18 months.

Please don't read this as having a dig at that Gold Coast mechanical shop. Being told to do just such and such and only being paid


He may have got that shop to do the work, but apparently he was telling the customers that he was fitting new Pobjoy motors............Several KIP customers have already been in contact with Stan to let him know this was the case.

I think the owners wife is a Solicitor, so will be interesting to see how things go.


The Brewmaster - October 19th, 2008 at 02:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Craig Torrens
Quote:
Originally posted by The Brewmaster
Quote:
Originally posted by Craig Torrens
I think this is the place that claimed to be an "agent" for Stan Pobjoy. He was telling people that he was fitting Pobjoy engines and misleading people into paying $5K deposits........all for motors that were NEVER being built by Pobjoy.

Apparently there's a couple of places up in QLD doing this trick........."cashing in" on Stan Pobjoys name.


This is not something I have heard .........

I think he always got a Gold Coast mechanical shop to do his mechanicals ..... but alas he often told them ..... just do this and only this and only paid that Gold Coast mechanical shop to do exactly what he asked ..... despite what else that should have been done mechanically....... and what that Gold Coast mechanical shop suggested.

Heard this from a couple of sources...... over the past 18 months.

Please don't read this as having a dig at that Gold Coast mechanical shop. Being told to do just such and such and only being paid


He may have got that shop to do the work, but he was telling the customers that he was fitting new Pobjoy motors............Several KIP customers have already been in contact with Stan to let him know this was the case.

Oh and Johny's wife is a solicitor apparently, so I'm sure they will get away with it. :mad:


wife is Lisa Clements who a solicitor at a Southport legal firm.


LIFE IN THE LOW LANE - October 19th, 2008 at 10:15 PM

All the goings on on KC at the moment about not being able to comment on KIP fro the fear of being sued for slander are a joke. I spoke to my best mate tonight who is a Police officer and he stated the exact phrase of law concerning it. Basically if you say something as an affected customer about someone/business they can take you to court but they have to prove that you are lying. If you got a resto done and charged more than quoted then got only half of what you payed done in return then you tell everyone about it you are telling the truth!!

Yes they can take you to court BUT the court will rule in your favour as you have not lied or misconstrued the truth at all about your experience with this person/business.


I guess it certainly makes people like Dasdubber and the work that he does for the price he charges seem very reasonable with an absolute level of quality some resto shops could only dream of.


MickH - October 20th, 2008 at 12:30 AM

....."Basically if you say something as an affected customer about someone/business they can take you to court but they have to prove that you are lying.........."

Then I would suggest that if you are NOT an affected customer that people posting replys/comments be careful about what you say as you are liable.Slander is what it is.....slander.:(


Vanders - October 20th, 2008 at 08:08 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by MickH
....."Basically if you say something as an affected customer about someone/business they can take you to court but they have to prove that you are lying.........."

Then I would suggest that if you are NOT an affected customer that people posting replys/comments be careful about what you say as you are liable.Slander is what it is.....slander.:(


Too true. Unfortunately one of the reasons posts about this companies restos were moved on KC was that others were chipping in with opinions which could have been construed as slanderous. VW people are usually passionate people who make passionate comments.


LIFE IN THE LOW LANE - October 20th, 2008 at 01:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MickH
....."Basically if you say something as an affected customer about someone/business they can take you to court but they have to prove that you are lying.........."

Then I would suggest that if you are NOT an affected customer that people posting replys/comments be careful about what you say as you are liable.Slander is what it is.....slander.:(


so are you implying that I am doing the slandering?? Cause all I did was paraphrase in laymans terms what the law states as far as "slander or defamation of character" is concerned.

I cannot help but feel sorry for those who have a car that is stripped to bits and now have to start all over again. Kudos to Roy from the Bus Stop with his efforts to help out those involved in this ugly mess.

Unfortunately the customers are the last in the line with their hand out for compensation after debitors/creditors all take their share....


MickH - October 20th, 2008 at 01:52 PM

I implied nothing. Just don't do anything that might have a negetive action to the people it is affecting,not you,but anyone who posts about it. I reckon the whole thing sux as well but I'm not getting drawn into it by saying this and that as it could be used by others to hinder the efforts of those who are actually involved in it.;)


Craig Torrens - October 20th, 2008 at 06:51 PM

no slander from me...............its just a pity when people like Stan miss out on potentially $30K of work..........and customers may not have received what they thought they may have been getting:tu:


Joel - November 3rd, 2008 at 04:17 PM

Classic :lol:

http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk245/komiutedriver/Redcliffe/DSC04425.jpg


MickH - November 3rd, 2008 at 05:28 PM

LOL..


jedidan - November 9th, 2008 at 04:49 PM

Sited in today's Courier Mail....interesting :mad:


vwsteve - November 10th, 2008 at 06:22 AM

you gotta feel sorry for the poor owners of those cars, i love the sticker though:)


LIFE IN THE LOW LANE - November 10th, 2008 at 06:43 AM

Funny article. Saying "sorry" to those who now have a bare shell I don't think will cut it somehow.....


h - March 25th, 2011 at 08:22 AM

apparently this 'reputable' business and fellow never left the building and is still at it so i have heard over the past few months..
interesting...?
if it is at all true ? it woukld be great to know who supplies the parts for such deeds..
hmmm
im sure this will become an interesting topic once more
sooo watching this space :spin:


Klaus - March 25th, 2011 at 06:48 PM

old news he's being trying to sell busses on ebay under his brothers name. been on dsk and thread locked deleted and KC which may be still going in a very edited form


h - March 25th, 2011 at 07:25 PM

well to some 'old news' is still current news, my friend to the 'uninformed' who don't know of the aforementioned
there is 'nothing' defam here
just letting the punters know the that the 'aledged' tretchy may still rain in the thems parts of the world
soo still watching this space :spin: