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Spare wheel where?? Behind back seat?
Mick058 - March 20th, 2009 at 10:19 AM

the limited space i had to put a Porsche spare in my front wheel well has disappeared for obvious reasons.

Where can i put a spare? I though i could put it behind the back seat. Has anyone done this? i would make up a bracket and a nice wheel cover.

Any better ideas.

For a 58 beetle.


Bizarre - March 20th, 2009 at 10:41 AM

a can of that leak sealer


Mick058 - March 20th, 2009 at 10:54 AM

does that stuff actually work?

What if the tyre shreds?


colonel mustard - March 20th, 2009 at 10:59 AM

I dont know what a 58 looks like in the back, but i guess you could use a mount similar to the ones on the front of bays, and bolt the wheel to one side, and have a tool kit on the other side.

http://www.empius.com/2009_catalog/empi2009_pg211.html  - like the one at the bottom of that page. or you could make one out of steel, get the stud pattern right, and weld the studs to the brackets.

you could get one of these wheel covers. http://www.classicveedub.com.au/images/SpareParts/accessory/87654YCUWCVDCVDCV...


squizy - March 20th, 2009 at 11:02 AM

You might need some of that rear wheel space. Maybe run a deflated space saver and see if it will still fit in the front behind the petrol tank.


rose - March 20th, 2009 at 11:04 AM

on the roof:crazy:


colonel mustard - March 20th, 2009 at 11:04 AM

Leak sealer is proabably a silly idea. You know dealerships charge like $400 for that stuff on new cars. I recon it would put your wheels out of balance.
And as you were saying, if you totally fry a tyre, its not going to help you. The only place you can put it is inside the car, or the boot. if there is a massive radiator in the boot, well... its gotta go inside the car.

Do you have to have a spare somewhere to get a mod plate for the radiator.... if that makes sense??? You have put a radiator where the spare should be, so you still need to have a spare............


OZ Towdster - March 20th, 2009 at 11:27 AM

How about using a porsche space saver wheel and tyre set and laying it flat under the passengers rear seat , yes it's going to sit out into the foot area a bit but how often do u use the back seat anyway .
Most people wouldn't even notice its there


vwsteve - March 20th, 2009 at 11:34 AM

dont know how much space u got under the bonnet but you can lay it flat on the tank or if tubeless you can keep plugs and a pump in the car, the spraycan crap does work also but makes a mess of your insides, otherwise you can join the roof rack club:lol:


Mick058 - March 20th, 2009 at 11:35 AM

problem with a space saver is where to put the blown rim. i could put it on the back seat but i need to have some kind of cover or towel so it didn't blacken the seats.

Is a space saver going to cause the car to sit on the ground too? Do they lower the car.


rose - March 20th, 2009 at 11:37 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Mick058
problem with a space saver is where to put the blown rim. i could put it on the back seat but i need to have some kind of cover or towel so it didn't blacken the seats.

Is a space saver going to cause the car to sit on the ground too? Do they lower the car.


no you pump em up and they are as round as a beetle tyre


OZ Towdster - March 20th, 2009 at 11:41 AM

Another option would be to cut the spare wheel well out of a bay kombi and sink that into the rear parcel area of your beetle and that would mabey keep the top of a full size wheel below the rear window line


rose - March 20th, 2009 at 11:43 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v419/montem/1971superwrx005.jpg


bajachris88 - March 20th, 2009 at 12:24 PM

What about those neat polished wood racks that go over the engine bay?

Its like a roof rack... but not on roof obviously


Mick058 - March 20th, 2009 at 12:29 PM

not keen on the rack idea, well not for this car/style.

Space saver still gets quite big.

Would that space saver sit over the rear window Rose? If in the parcel tray?


Baja Wes - March 20th, 2009 at 12:34 PM

I have this problem. A spare wheel won't fit in the parcel area. I normally don't carry a spare, just a pyrol-pump repair can. In the last 14yrs of driving I have never had a flat. When you think about it the spare doesn't make much sense, I have had more dead batteries than flat tyres and I don't carry around a spare battery (same goes for dead fuel pumps, broken diffs, etc). If the tyre shredded then the car could always be towed home.

On long offroad trips I just stick a spare wheel on the back seat.

Motorcycles don't have spares, it's not that much of an issue. On my motorcycle I carry a repair kit which would allow me to fix most punctures.


Mick058 - March 20th, 2009 at 12:41 PM

You make a valid point there Wes

Have you ever used those cans before??


Yogie - March 20th, 2009 at 01:09 PM

Can of repair foam would be best. I used one a long time ago. Works great and gets you going again but from memory, you have to replace the tyre shortly afterwards as it sets hard inside the tyre and you can't use it anymore.

Much better than trying to keep a spare somewhere though.

Yogie


squizy - March 20th, 2009 at 01:23 PM

Oh all of the fun things you think of "after" you've sold the Pobjoy. I reckon don't worry about it then at the moment. Get the engine in, get all your plumbing done, then work out what to do after that.


Mick058 - March 20th, 2009 at 01:33 PM

ha, i haven't had a spare in it since i've had it. Wheel well wasn't big enough for a Fuchs - had to buy an aftermarket 4inch Fuch and a narrow tyre.
Didnt get round to it.

Foam may be the way to go then.


silver - March 20th, 2009 at 01:40 PM

Get 2 Cans!


Joel - March 20th, 2009 at 03:21 PM

Mick im gonna be in the same boat too now and trying to work out options

with superbugs if the radiator is right at the front of the wheel well you can still fit a space saver tyre in there but that doesnt help in your case

i thought about making a mount to lay the spare flat ontop of the fuel tank maybe weld something to my strut brace

something like that could be dont in any beetle tho

the amount of bugs around ive seen that have had front enders and the spare doesnt fit in the wheel well anymore, all they usually do is sit them flat ontop of the fuel tank as well

its not like you need the space for luggage
if you did theres always the back seat..... or a non beetle that has room


Mick058 - March 20th, 2009 at 03:26 PM

all my wiring is around the middle part too - i could make a cover over that, but the idea of it laying flat in the front, best to bracket it - dents in the bonnet otherwise.

I think Jakriz has his still in the front. Lots more room in a superbug i believe.


ian.mezz - March 20th, 2009 at 03:28 PM

joel your wheel should still fit on top of your Radiator.


newghia - March 20th, 2009 at 03:30 PM

Carry a plastic drop sheet from bunnings ($1.50 i think )
under the back seat to cover it (the seat )if you have to put one of those big rollers in there for a short trip to get it fixed


Joel - March 20th, 2009 at 03:43 PM

Jak is running his rad laying over on an angle in the wheel well so unless his spare sat on top of the tank im not sure it would fit one in there

im thinking more of running the A/C condensor and radiator upright right at the front of the wheel well which leaves most of the well still intact same as Ricolas bug

http://www.ricola.co.uk/images/cabrio/rad_fit.JPG

http://www.ricola.co.uk/images/cabrio/rad_first_cut.JPG

my bugs running 4x100 stud pattern now so i could just get a little 13" spare from an early corolla or pulsar as a "get me home measure"


ian.mezz - March 20th, 2009 at 07:08 PM

Joel :lol::crazy::lol:

Mick you need spare water now just in case
hhahaha

my little Radiator fits right up the front.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v419/montem/1971superwrx002.jpg


Joel - March 21st, 2009 at 06:56 AM

geez Ian just keep the decklid locked and noone will ever know that clown bug has 200+hp

well till you hit the noise pedal


1303Steve - March 21st, 2009 at 09:38 AM

Hi

Get a Porsche space saver, make a mount up so that you can bolt it securely to the top fuel tank.

If your unlucky enough to get a puncture carry a garbage bag to put it in, then put it on the back seat or on the passengers lap.

You have different diameter wheels front to back anyway, so what sort of spare could get to suit both ends of the car?

Porsches don't have anywhere to store the flat tyre either.

You will need to carry a 12 volt compressor, in most cases this will get enough air in the tyre to get you to a place to get it fixed, also carry a puncture repair kit.

The owners manual in Porsche tell you to inflate the space saver until the car is level, this is to take into account different diameters.

Steve


Baja Wes - March 21st, 2009 at 09:59 AM

I put my spare in a big garbage bag when I put it on the back seat.

I haven't had to use my can of pyrol-pump yet. The offroad tyres are almost run flat on a VW.