Fibreglass repro parts
alien8 - June 25th, 2009 at 06:00 PM
Just putting the feelers out. What parts would you like to see made out of fibreglass or carbonfibre that are not currently available?
DylanTheDubber - June 25th, 2009 at 07:17 PM
Maybe custom side skirts like maybe carbon fibre also i saw once custom made carbon fibre version of the tinware. There is some ideas.
Craig Torrens - June 25th, 2009 at 09:22 PM
bonnet........dash gauge panels..........removable rear bever panel.........bumpers..........front spoilers.
isky - June 26th, 2009 at 12:09 AM
im wanting to make some fibre glass molds of the complete front and rear fender sections of a Karmann. Some idiot cut all 4 wheel arches of the one i
just bought and unless i make fiber glass ones to use as templates later when i want to fix them ill have to hold on to my other Ghia for measurements
when i badly want and need to to sell it (if that makes sense). Is it hard to do? Actually i also need a rear lid 
hellbugged - June 26th, 2009 at 12:27 AM
RUNNING BOARDS, FRONT SPLITTERS, DOOR TRIMS, 3 PIECE FIREWALLS, AIR CEANER TOPS and WIRING COVERS!.......
polak - June 26th, 2009 at 12:49 AM
STANDARD WIDTH REAR EARLY GAURDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sorry to yell, but i cant seem to find them anywhere, all seem to be slightly wider... also a early
bonnet with lip as per original..... btw all for early beetle 
alien8 - June 26th, 2009 at 01:39 AM
Cool cool,Keep them coming.
I have some more individual question to come regarding specifics.
Joel - June 26th, 2009 at 08:27 AM
carbonjoe from germanlook forums did all that stuff and more but last i heard he shut down shop
really sux cos i wanted to get his kevlar carbon fibre look kamei spoiler, bumpers and headlight rings 
anyone know if hes still doing it?
vwsteve - June 26th, 2009 at 08:36 AM
fibreglass karmann ghia decklids so they dont rust again
Sides - June 26th, 2009 at 09:10 AM
Interior trim panels, a decent center console and a wiring cover.
I'm thinking mainly for racing use, so carbon fiber would be better than fiberglass (lighter, but mainly cos less flammable)
Joel - June 26th, 2009 at 09:32 AM
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fibreglass karmann ghia decklids so they dont rust again
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why stop at just the decklid, go the whole body 
funnily enough they actually do that in the UK for bug floor pans,
when the bugs rot out and fail MOT wizard or someone made a fibreglass KG cabrio body u could chuck on a bug floor pan
matberry - June 26th, 2009 at 12:01 PM
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fibreglass karmann ghia decklids so they dont rust again
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someone made a fibreglass KG cabrio body u could chuck on a bug floor pan
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I have a neighbour building one of these now
alien8 - June 26th, 2009 at 03:44 PM
Regarding bumpers, if they cop a heavy knock there is every chance its going to split or break. Especially around the brackets
Is that a concern?
A light/medium knock is fine as the carbon layup is fairly flexible.
isky - June 26th, 2009 at 04:36 PM
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fibreglass karmann ghia decklids so they dont rust again
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someone made a fibreglass KG cabrio body u could chuck on a bug floor pan
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I have a neighbour building one of these now
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Wow! i'd be interested in knowing more!
Joel - June 26th, 2009 at 07:50 PM
you'll have to talk to matt, but AFAIK theres noone in aus that actually sells the bodys
a few mobs over seas tho
http://www.distinctivereplica.com/Ghiaparts.html
isky - June 26th, 2009 at 08:55 PM
shweeet!
STIDUB - June 26th, 2009 at 10:36 PM
F & R lids, all styles, with the lip around the edges
Running boards standard & wider
Guards, carbon aeros would be interesting...
rear valance
Door Trim
Wiring cover
Kamei style lip spoilers
remmelle style intakes for the rear 1/4 panel - see germanlook for an idea
Speaker mounts for the front wheel wells like dasdubbers, was a fair bit of demand when he made them...
out of curiosity whats your source/potential source for CF sheeting?
ive been tempted to have a go at making some cf running boards to suit my aeros, done a bit of moulding work for my job, its a pain to get moulds
perfect though, very interested in your plans...
eraser - June 26th, 2009 at 11:16 PM
should do a complete dash in one piece, that just can bolt over the orig dash 
alien8 - June 26th, 2009 at 11:38 PM
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posted by STIDUB
F & R lids, all styles, with the lip around the edges
Running boards standard & wider
Guards, carbon aeros would be interesting...
rear valance
Door Trim
Wiring cover
Kamei style lip spoilers
remmelle style intakes for the rear 1/4 panel - see germanlook for an idea
Speaker mounts for the front wheel wells like dasdubbers, was a fair bit of demand when he made them...
out of curiosity whats your source/potential source for CF sheeting?
ive been tempted to have a go at making some cf running boards to suit my aeros, done a bit of moulding work for my job, its a pain to get moulds
perfect though, very interested in your plans...
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I have been a fibreglass buildier for 16 years. Raw material supply is no problems.
I don't know if there is much of a market for this kind of
stuff in VW land.
The molding itself can get quite expensive,especially when your making many parts. I would think the price of the finished product would be shocking
in some cases.
For example, off the top of my head, door cards would easily be three times the price of stock repros. $300- $400 give or take for door cards is a
little more than I think people are willing to pay?? Don't know.
Stuff like headlight surrounds, tail light housings, late model bumpers and brackets, wiring covers, front indicator housings, running boards,
aftermarket air cleaner tops, fire wall in engine, firewall inside front and speaker/kick panels. door pillar guards, finger plate guards, dash
inserts and custom bits and pieces. But I don't know if there would be enough interest in these 'dress up' parts for it to be worthwhile making the
molds.
Yeah I just don't know. More research is needed me thinks.
greedy53 - June 27th, 2009 at 08:11 AM
bumpers of a 71 low lite
trickysimon - June 27th, 2009 at 09:15 AM
Guage panels to replace the speaker holes either side of late beetle dash.
A 1200 is slow - June 27th, 2009 at 09:25 AM
How about some windows??? Nice and lite, and they would never break!!
(Yes, I am joking)
Seriously though, I would be interested in early beetle doors.
hellbugged - June 27th, 2009 at 09:31 AM
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I have been a fibreglass buildier for 16 years. Raw material supply is no problems.
I don't know if there is much of a market for this kind of
stuff in VW land.
The molding itself can get quite expensive,especially when your making many parts. I would think the price of the finished product would be shocking
in some cases.
For example, off the top of my head, door cards would easily be three times the price of stock repros. $300- $400 give or take for door cards is a
little more than I think people are willing to pay?? Don't know.
Stuff like headlight surrounds, tail light housings, late model bumpers and brackets, wiring covers, front indicator housings, running boards,
aftermarket air cleaner tops, fire wall in engine, firewall inside front and speaker/kick panels. door pillar guards, finger plate guards, dash
inserts and custom bits and pieces. But I don't know if there would be enough interest in these 'dress up' parts for it to be worthwhile making the
molds.
Yeah I just don't know. More research is needed me thinks.
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mate, that price for door cards, i'll give you the $$ today!!!........i'd be sticking to the things that are more suited to a wide variety of
rides......
IE 99% of beetles wear black running boards, so carbon fibre ones are going to appeal to a lot of people and suit many cars, i'm sure these would be
a bulk seller and to be honest, i would make them my first product, add them to my shopping cart with the door trims PLEASE ........where as bonnets and boots suit more a specific "style" being
the racier look beetles.........
.....small things will be easily freighted.....$$$, as too running boards and wiring covers would be relatively easily packed as opposed to say a
guard or bonnet
get onto it buddy, there is a market there for sure
see attachment looks phat, but may not appeal to people being discreet or who have just finished a big $$ paint.
fibre panels do break up the "smooth" look we all set out to achieve
matberry - June 27th, 2009 at 09:43 AM
Great thread.....beat me to it.
I have recently made the moulds for two styles of one piece baja bonnets and tell you, to make perfect quality parts, the labour that goes into them
is VERY substantial. IF I was payed for every hour that went into these two moulds, they would have cost probably 20k.....
The parts like door trims and speaker grills can be cut from flat panel so only a template is req'd???
Maybe alien8 and I should combine some resources to get more of these bits available.
I like most of the mentioned parts, but bonnets with the sealing lip is quite a bit harder than without.
1303Steve - June 27th, 2009 at 10:01 AM
Hi
Great idea. I think personally the hardest part to find these days is a rust free front bonnet for any model, you can buy just about any other panel
new except these.
Steve
VWFREAK - June 27th, 2009 at 10:34 AM
Currently looking for a carbon fiber W deck lid
alien8 - June 27th, 2009 at 11:33 AM
That seems to be a popular carbon part here and in the states hey? I will look into it.
alien8 - June 27th, 2009 at 12:53 PM
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posted by matberry
Great thread.....beat me to it.
I have recently made the moulds for two styles of one piece baja bonnets and tell you, to make perfect quality parts, the labour that goes into them
is VERY substantial. IF I was payed for every hour that went into these two moulds, they would have cost probably 20k.....
The parts like door trims and speaker grills can be cut from flat panel so only a template is req'd???
Maybe alien8 and I should combine some resources to get more of these bits available.
I like most of the mentioned parts, but bonnets with the sealing lip is quite a bit harder than without.
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Door trims would be flat panel, maybe with a soft backing to fill them out a llittle from the door. Dash grills would have to be molded off originals
with a bit of modifying. Yes, molding can take a few goes before you get a nice workable mold.
Yeah mate, I am happy to work with you. Lets get these parts out there.
I plan to do some molding of a few small parts this week. I'll post some results.
hellbugged - June 27th, 2009 at 02:12 PM
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Currently looking for a carbon fiber W deck lid
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I know where there a couple of those 
Sides - June 27th, 2009 at 02:34 PM
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mate, that price for door cards, i'll give you the $$ today!!!........
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Second that - door cards and rear quarter panel cards for that sort of $$$ would be fine by me...