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how do you get a Beetle to stick around bends
Thinker - October 31st, 2009 at 04:46 PM

i was after a few ideas on how people get their beetle to stick to the road.

springs
shocks
tyres
glue

whats your view.


Bizarre - October 31st, 2009 at 04:53 PM

height
torsion bars
tyres
springs
shocks
clean undies


not in that order :D

you talking Standard or Super


68AutoBug - October 31st, 2009 at 05:06 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Thinker
i was after a few ideas on how people get their beetle to stick to the road.

springs??
shocks YES I have HD oil shocks on the front..& back..
tyres YES
glue optional..?

whats your view.


Hi

I have a 1968 semi auto which has the rear IRS suspension the same as the supers have..
I have 4 new shocks.. all new ball joints, tie rod ends steering damper.. new tyres..
the front is lowered a few inches...

and it drives like a new beetle...
a New 1968 torsion bar beetle...
and really impresses Me when going around curves on the road..
I can lock up all tyres very easily if I hit the brakes... Hard..

If everything is like it came from the factory.. NEW
it should drive like a new one.. which was actually much better than normal cars back in the late 60s to 70s..

add a bit of lowering front and rear...

I am Very happy the way My car handles and goes...

naturally, I'll never be able to beat a modified 1303S Super
but I probably don;'t drive as fast ..

cheers

LEE


DaveCarter - October 31st, 2009 at 05:11 PM

944 rear end, some nice 7 or 8 inch wide mags, good rubber and lowered until it is nice and solid. Mine has that with some struts from vforce and it corners flat. Before it had the deep sump it would lose oil pressure around every corner :crazy:


1303Steve - October 31st, 2009 at 05:33 PM

Hi

The biggest improvement is decent size wheels and tyres.

Steve


eraser - October 31st, 2009 at 06:23 PM

wide tyres number 1, and lowering the front helps greatly.


grumble - October 31st, 2009 at 06:27 PM

All of the above and knowing the capabilities of your vehicle,a course at the advanced driving school helps.


colonel mustard - October 31st, 2009 at 08:05 PM

If you have a super, go the carter option.


if you have a beam/swinger...... get more power and just slide it around corners...like drifty dave.... wait... drifty, maybe i should take your super, and you can get a beam/swinger and slide it? cool. done. sweet.


amazeer - October 31st, 2009 at 08:13 PM

disagree. you have to get a good seat first. you cant drive a car to its potential if your using the steering wheel to hold you upright. Its impossible. You dont need too much support on the base side, but you do need it around the shoulders, which is what a lot of "sport" seats lack. Forget importing any other seats from production road cars. Get a single race seat for yourself. Passengers can just hang on to their stock seat or the oh shit handle.

Type 3 wagon rear torsion bars are an improvement, but probabloy still a bit light. sway bars and some kone shocks. I dont think you need to go too wide on the wheels and tyres. A 205 width tyre in 50 to 60 series is all you'd need to go. Its only a beetle, not too much weight to throw around.

EDIT: I dont know what they do with those funny cars with coil springs.


Thinker - October 31st, 2009 at 08:23 PM

dont have coils their to modern.

but sliding of your seat is always good for a laugh.

and you tell your mates that you going that hard you were thrown out of your seat. even if you were just going round a round-a-bout.


Joel - October 31st, 2009 at 08:32 PM

sell it and get a strut bug :lol:

6" rims, slightly lowered (bout 2") good shocks (bilsteins, koni etc) replace all your bushings, wheel bearings, tie rod ends etc and a good front swaybar

and if your brakes are all up to scratch you'll really be surprised how well an old bug can hug the road
even a swingaxle and tractor front end :lol:


modulus - October 31st, 2009 at 08:32 PM

Try this:
"Suspension Tuning Tips for Type 1 Swingaxle Beetles, IRS Beetles and Buggies"
http://www.aircooled.net/gnrlsite/resource/articles/handling.htm 

hth