i think its fair to say that im a 'new generation' dubber, but i wonder, as i see some of the 'ricers' around town and at times laugh at them and think 'why would you bother' - would this have been the reaction of those 'hotting up' their Veedubs in the 70s and 80s.

Are the Excels of today, with their body kits, spoilers and added weight with standard engines, equivalent to the veedubs of the 70s and 80s.

In what light were they seen?

I assume the V8 boys would have laughed at the humble Veedub the same way they still do now at any 4 cylinder.

keen to hear some thoughts.

slow day at work mate... :P

An interesting thought but think this, a VW from the 60's/70's can do infinite Kilometres and still keep going, i think youd be lucky to get 200,000km out of a Hyundai or anything of similar quality. Kinda hard to compare them when VW's are in a completly (higher) different league. Also VW's can be made to handle better and perform better, ricers today are only good for ugly body kits and farty exhaust notes

Ryan

we use to go street drag racing back in the 80s at Kooragang island and there was lots of fast veedubs and datos.the V8 boys didn't laugh long

I don't know about that ryan. I owned a corolla that had done close to 400 000 ks and my current one has done 340 000 and still going strong. I love volkswagens but you have to admit that ricers, well toyotas atleast, are crazy reliable

i think there is one thing that we can all agree on, hyundi's are crap.

people may turbo excels... but that doesnt make them any less crap...

my excel gets 600ks + to a 40 ltr tank
nothing crap about that

good onya colonel mustard
upsetting a Hyundai owner

Still not as bad as those EVOs.....aye Craig?

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Originally posted by kombibob my excel gets 600ks + to a 40 ltr tank nothing crap about that

Should I bother explaining myself... no. I just dislike hyundi's. And yes, I do know the i30 deisel gets nearly 1000km's to a tank. but, you may not ever get to fill up more than 200 times..

Sorry to sound like that Dave, i wouldnt really consider a corolla a ricer, cause i do realise they go forever aswell. And generally ricers a flogged and mistreated, theirfore dont last long....... right? Also hyundai's arn't neccessarily crap, you simply get what you pay for. Now the real nasty crap cars would be Kia's, they're absolutly shocking

Ryan

hmmm...i guess im more after the whole 'image' of it. I assume veedubs wouldn't of been viewed as a luxury or fancy car right? So those that were 'done up', would others think 'why bother' etc.

Just interested of the history of it - i didnt get to live it!

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Originally posted by ryana89 An interesting thought but think this, a VW from the 60's/70's can do infinite Kilometres and still keep going, i think youd be lucky to get 200,000km out of a Hyundai or anything of similar quality. Kinda hard to compare them when VW's are in a completly (higher) different league. Also VW's can be made to handle better and perform better, ricers today are only good for ugly body kits and farty exhaust notes Ryan

but what have you spent on repair bills

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Originally posted by kombibob my excel gets 600ks + to a 40 ltr tank nothing crap about that

So its all down to the owner pretty much wether the car will last..... 327,000!!!! on an excel WOW, simply goes to show what looking after a car can do

Ryan

yeah country cars always have longer lives than city cars too
my mates 68 beetle is a country car and has over 1million KMs on it
its on engine #3 which current has close on 200,000miles on it but still runs amazingly well just gets oil light flicker at idle when its hot

there was a 2001 fairlane forsale here yesterday thats an ex hire car and has 690,000kms on the clock
thats taxi status

Just hire Running on Empty and you will learn what it was like back in the 80's all great classic movie. Come to think of it I might dust it off and watch it this week end.

Back in the 80's there where no crappy ricer cars. The dato's use to get looked at but nothing like the silly ricer cars today. I use to own a 6cyl HR holden that I had fur on the dash and velvet on the door trims and a alpine stereo with a seperate equaliser, lumpy cam etc and lowered whick I thought was pretty cool.

Are Veedubbers the Ricers of the past , Nope
1200 Datos, 120y 200b, ford lasers, Galants, Mazda

u left out leyland marinas and chrysler centuras

Hmm just wondering, are their ricer owners that actually change anything mechanical to their car... other than a farty exhaust?

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Originally posted by rose not a thing in the last 2 years i have owned it, and it does 110ks a day up and down a mountain. el concreto also does 110 ks a day up and down the mountain uses much more fuel and needs more attention than just an oil change once i a while to keep doing it. trust me i love my dubs like a crazy man but for a cheap realiable car there is nothing wrong with a excel, but no i would never want to rice it up it even came with 17" wheels when i bought it and i replace them with standards straight away. lol . but what have you spent on repair bills Quote: Originally posted by kombibob my excel gets 600ks + to a 40 ltr tank nothing crap about that

only some bits from fatiguing rocker studs from drag racing my bug maybe around $100

And all I pay for the Hilux is just service items just $3.50/ltr of oill and $3.80 for oil filter service items for the Hilux

You are a very lucky owner than for an excel not to cost you any extra money.

I think the Hilux is made in Tailand now so it's probably just as crappy as an excel

there are very few non vw cars that i would own..... a hyundi is not one of them

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Originally posted by ian.mezz we use to go street drag racing back in the 80s at Kooragang island and there was lots of fast veedubs and datos.the V8 boys didn't laugh long

This is a funny question when you think about it. I was customising my beetle back in the 70's and going to rodruns all over the UK and most of the runs I went to I'd be the only VW there and I'm talking of a period of around 5 years. People looked at me like I was wierd. You could customise an Escort or Cortina and that was fine, a Mini that was acceptable but a VW? That was plain silly. Beach buggies were also looked upon as a cheap and easy way of getting a custom car(??!) but I had mates who were into 55/56/57 Chevys (they were older than me) and during a drunken session once I heard that at least one of them wanted a buggy but was more worried about what his mates would think if he bought a VW! BTW jap cars were NEVER seen at any meeting I ever went to then and that was up to about '82.

Following on from Ian Mezzs' comment I went to a meeting of the Mid Kent Roadsters back in about 79 and one of the organisers drove a nearly standard looking VW complete with roofrack but when they started the 1/8th mile dragstrip any car that won he'd challenge for a race. Only one car beat him at the time and that was a Jag engined T-bucket called Desperado, he beat every V8 engined car that raced but would never open his engine lid. I looked underneath and he had a VW engine in it but a year or so after I first see him I found out he had nitrous injection!! And that's back 30 years ago.