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Who has A/C in their VW?
sander288 - November 23rd, 2009 at 04:22 PM

Just wondering what people have done for A/C after having to drive the bug in the heat i'm wondering whats out there..:lol:


vw54 - November 23rd, 2009 at 05:22 PM

nuthing for an Old Bug

It all has to be custom made and fitted not an easy job but can be done

I use my 1/4 windows as A/C


Joel - November 23rd, 2009 at 05:30 PM

im just starting to set mine up
itll be all custom fabbed up though

but theres a few kits availble overseas if you wanna go to the hassle of importing

look up gilmore and ICEAC kits for VWs

you need a decent engine though, its alot of load to put on it when its working its hardest in hot conditions


Old Dubber - November 23rd, 2009 at 07:42 PM

Did it back in the eightys

This is copy of what I have sent others on what I've done.

I have air conditioning in my '62, it works great and I'm real COOOL!
The underdash unit is an after market (made USA) "Mark IV", small and neat,
two stage fan and temperature control, ducts etc. the rest - i.e. rotary
compressor (Sanden), condenser, receiver/dryer are from a Holden
Commodore (local Australian built car).
The condenser unit with twin electric fans is mounted in the spare tire
well. Air scoops at the bottom and escape holes at the back, sealed over
the top to stop water entering the luggage compartment. The receiver/dryer
is mounted in the void under the fuel tank on the right hand side, access
from behind the right hand fron wheel. Hoses under the floor. The compressor
is mounted to the right of the alternator on a bracket from under the
alternator stand.
Extra pulley welded in front of standard one. Had to have a slight
bubble put into the engine lid to clear the electro-magnetic clutch on
the compressor. Has a sensor fitted to shut down the compressor under
1000rpm (is adjustable, allows for easier starting and idle. Does not
effect the performance that much on my warmed 1600TP.

Disadvantages are - it only recycles the air inside the car (need to
open a window every now and then), and I have lost some space in the
luggage compartment (now taken up by the spare wheel).

Advantages: My wife will now go travelling in the bug!

Here are some pics

1 - The '62
http://www.vwdcqinc.org.au/images/aircon/the62.jpg

2 - Condenser unit & Fans
http://www.vwdcqinc.org.au/images/aircon/condenser.jpg

3 - Dash unit
http://www.vwdcqinc.org.au/images/aircon/dash_unit.jpg

4 - cover over the Condenser unit & Fans
http://www.vwdcqinc.org.au/images/aircon/cover.jpg

5 - Compressor unit
http://www.vwdcqinc.org.au/images/aircon/engine1.jpg

6 - Bulge in Engine cover
http://www.vwdcqinc.org.au/images/aircon/engine_cover.jpg

The following pic of the compressor bracket:
http://www.vwdcqinc.org.au/images/aircon/acmount1.jpg

Hard to get it all in the photo while it's in the car.
The mount is bolted to the bottom alternator housing/engine by
three bolts ( longer than standard, two not in pic) and at the top to the
alternator housing.
Two supports and a slide adjust bracket for the compressor.

This support took many hours of trial and error, but the result was worth it.

I also had to block off the right heater exit on the fan shroud, have put it on the side.

Others tend to put the compressor on the left of the carb, but I think it
interferes with the distributor and carb adjusting.

I had all the bits given to me for free, all I had to get was the hoses and
gas!

If I had to do it again, I think I would use a compressor from a small four cylinder .
This would be adequate I'm sure, and would save on the engine bulge!
Although with the later engine cover it would probably clear it OK!

Email me any queries

Grahame


Gringo_54_oval - November 23rd, 2009 at 07:56 PM

thats awsome old dubber:tu:
just a question in regards to heat whats the most a vw engine 1900cc could get to before it starts to overheat.or what temp should it not go over at?
sorry if i changed your topic but the heat thing got me curious


Baja Wes - November 23rd, 2009 at 10:11 PM

I've got digital climate control in my Baja.

http://www.offroadvw.net/bajawes/images/ac/climate_control.gif

http://www.offroadvw.net/bajawes/images/ac/new_dash2.jpg


h - November 24th, 2009 at 12:20 AM

standard in the T4


sander288 - November 24th, 2009 at 04:15 PM

Baja Wes, with those under dash ones how do you find the leg room etc...


sander288 - November 24th, 2009 at 04:20 PM

http://www.vintagespeed.com.tw/Accessory/Air-Conditioner-Compressor.html 

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=784758 

found this bracket, looks pretty good, the only problem I can see is that if you had a taller dizzy like a magneto or something similar, the bracket would need to tilt to the right 45 degrees to clear and be more over the generator or alternator.


Baja Wes - November 24th, 2009 at 07:35 PM

It's in my Baja which has a 2inch body lift, so there is 2 inches more leg room than normal anyway. It doesn't cause any issues. It's heaps higher than those old under dash shelves that people used to have.


cam070 - November 24th, 2009 at 09:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Baja Wes
I've got digital climate control in my Baja.

http://www.offroadvw.net/bajawes/images/ac/climate_control.gif

http://www.offroadvw.net/bajawes/images/ac/new_dash2.jpg


Damn that's a nice install Wes. Looks factory!


warb - November 24th, 2009 at 10:43 PM

wes, looks like a beetle, only a little bit fancy..


empi - November 25th, 2009 at 02:19 PM

Try the Thailand Vw club i think just about 100% of the club has aircon , try AVD member PPP or POP they are part of the club.


ratty 63 - November 25th, 2009 at 02:33 PM

New style, multi cylinder (7 cyl I think..) compressors are now available. They are much smaller, use less engine power to turn and are re-buildable (should you manage to wear them out!). I have seen the guys at Gold Coast Vee Dub fit them to cars that they have converted recently.... work really well too!

R :)


BlueV2 - November 25th, 2009 at 04:39 PM

I used part of a kit from Hot Rod Air in my buggy (bought through an importer in Perth). Just the Heater/Evaperator unit that goes under the dash. But they have a VW kit as well. Not sure how well it would fit on our RHD cars.

http://www.hotrodair.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=108/category...

My install.

http://www.pa.com.au/tmp/v2/ac/ac18.jpg

http://www.pa.com.au/tmp/v2/ac/ac20.jpg

http://www.pa.com.au/tmp/v2/ac/ac29.jpg


Gary L - November 25th, 2009 at 08:53 PM

Hi I still using the fan in the Kombi maybe I should join the noughties