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Was told today that a Policeman was at a service station
handing out tickets to everyone who didn't lock their car when they went to pay for the petrol...

The NSW Law is, that You cannot move more than 1 meter
[I think its 1m] from Your car with it unlocked...
windows down is also illegal with Your car locked...

also illegal to leave Your keys in the car if You move more than 1 meter away from Your car ....

My Belief is.... IMHO.. that if You have an alarm fitted ...
You don't need to lock Your car when paying for petrol...

Now- New Cars don't have alarms.. only immobilisers etc..

but MY beetle does have an alarm... plus other little oddities

LEE





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I have an alarm as well, with remote central locking. I usually lock the car when I go to pay for fuel, but I don't close the windows. I would soon know if anyone tried to unlock the car - the alarm is quite loud. lol

Don't you hate revenue raising

And they wonder why people hate em?
idiots....

gone are the days were you pay for your own actions. If i leave my car unlock then it's my fault if something happens. Don't need the police to baby sit us all the time.

PLUS a mother with small kids can't leave the kids in the car to go pay for the fuel.....

Pay windows like McDonalds is the go.... lol

or like in the USA where You pay for Your fuel... first... YIKES..

LEE

Hi

So I guess when I leave the keys in my car with the motor running I'm in real trouble, do it every day, its part of my job.

Steve

That's a ridiculous law, I never would have imagined that they would do something like that in Australia. If you choose to leave your car unlocked, that's your own risk, surely? I do it all the time at petrol stations, and sometimes longer stops if I'm in a quiet area.

What about vintage cars which don't have locks? What about convertibles, does the same law demand that you put your roof up?

RULE 213 Making a motor vehicle secure.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/rulesregulations/downloads/2008nswrrchanges.pdf 

Rule applies to a driver of a motor vehicle who stops and leaves the vehicle on a ROAD

As far as im aware a service station is not a public road there fore you cannot be booked for leaving car open.
Fine is only $84 no points worth the risk I say.
Fines are here
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/rulesregulations/downloads/0310_demerits_general.pdf 

I think u will find that petrol station driveways and shopping centre carparks are classed as gazetted roads. :s at least they are in the eyes of insurance companies..
I live in a little country town, and very rarely lock my car in the driveway of my house. Heck sometimes I leave the keys in the ignition overnight ... what a crock of sh*t! Go catch the criminals, and not the bloke who leaves his keys in the car!
cheers Todd

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Originally posted by chippy I live in a little country town, and very rarely lock my car in the driveway of my house. Heck sometimes I leave the keys in the ignition overnight ... what a crock of sh*t! Go catch the criminals, and not the bloke who leaves his keys in the car! cheers Todd

I would do that too for the insurance, but nobody would steal a ford so there is no point. A distant relative got busted for insurance fraud when somebody "stole" his.

Just to go on a similar tangent!

I went through a fast food drive through with two under 3 children strapped in and a $5 note.

I looked at the menu and there was only VALUE MEALS shown. I asked the attendant what I could buy for $5 being fries and a burger and they would not help. They said I had to come inside. I said I cant, I want to know what the cost of a fries and burger was, I have $5 blah blah blah. In the end I cracked it, they would not serve me unless I came inside and looked at the menu.

Anyway the head office of the company was very apologetic, and sent me a $10 voucher. However that is irrelevant as it shows how simple service is SHOOT in this day and age. Lets just throw pregnant mums off trains. Lets just throw people with walking sticks off trams. Lets just ride our bikes on the footpath and force parents with prams onto the dirt. Why not just close lift doors on pram drivers too.

Many cars overseas lock all doors with the keys in the ignition..

I think that is disabled over here...

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Kids have got to be safer locked in the car.....

but when its over 35c in the Sun, it doesn't take long for the temperature to rise over 50c in a car with the windows up..

many people here on hot days leave the kids in the 4WD with the engine and air conditioner going..

many cars cannot be locked with the engine going???
never tried that in a Lancer or Swift.. lol

air cooled cars should be exempt anyway... lol

do the 1/4 windows count as a "window" ???

LEE





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nsw.. haha sucks to be you guys..

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Originally posted by h nsw.. haha sucks to be you guys..

Umm some negative posts here the police are just doing there job
MODERATORS clean this up

I can't lock my car. Not to mention I just throw my keys under the front seat.

and

Give it a rest silver. I you have a personal beef with the mods take it up with the mods

i bought a central locking/alarm/emobilizer kit that did that. and was only $25 and plugged into the existing central locking of my Toyota Celica

As soon as u put ur foot on the brake for more than 3 seconds with hte car on, the doors would lock with the system (IE: thinking you stopped at lights or intersection etc). As soon as u turned the car off it unlocked and the celica with its original system in the background naturally then would unlock if u tried to lock the car with the keys in but only when the whole car was turned off.

was a trip out but felt secure.

And Silver, i see where ur coming from, but when u personally get burnt by the cops and when they have a fun fair with ya, particularly when u been a local in the area for more than 18 yrs, u take it personally. Try nearly half a grand 5 days before xmas on a uni student wage(I hadn't done xmas shopping yet), to get a car defected that u couldn't afford to fix, so u had to deregister (and am still car-less), and to find that the grounds of the legislation they used to fine u was incorrect and they weren't in a position to judge (by the book) whether i could have stopped at a yellow light or not, for them further to defect the car for a minor exhaust leak (Due to a soft head on the engine), ding in the number plate, no straps on the sub box, crack in the corner parking light. My clean record i had for 3.5 yrs got sh**ted on in an instant.

no straps on teh sub box? what if it was a tool box? u don't need straps for ur golf clubs in the boot. Number plate was only a slight bend... pathetic. I'm trying to get by, i got my own probs, and some hot headed prick comes along and sh*ts on a person whose already struggling. crack in the corner light... geez how fatal. A roo bar on a 4x4 is more dangerous, yet legal.

Then to get told that it wasn't the way i drove, it was the fact i brought attention to myself (quote from the cop).

It was only a simple trip to Aldi's to get bread and milk for my mum, and my little brother was in the car with me.

So, then i bought a $400 car to replace the one i couldn't afford to fix, i did the rust repair work and fixed it in a week by spares and reconditioning from stuff i had, to have it blow up 2 nights later after getting it registered, for the engine to be dying on the way home with it sounded aweful and me freaked/scared sh**less, to have a fat bitch street cop at the side of the road swear at me from the kerb while i'm panicing (cursing at me, how professional, i could of had young kids in the back) whilst she could obviously see i was in a bit of trouble. I made it home... just before it completely died.

Now u can see where i come from. Before paying the fines i asked the queensland transport department about how to go with court, and even the office ladies behind the counter of the cop shop, no one had no idea on the process.... sigh. No one could help me. The fine was too close to the due date for me to suss it out.

NOTE: the blown motor... hence the advertisement in the signature...

Oh! sorry Silver, i understand whats going on now... ur just pissed cause of the moderators and the excuse for the superpcruise thread going, yet there's negativity here... I wasn't having a dig at ya, just justifying why i have a negative stance to the local police. Although still, if i am in trouble, i still gotta give them the call and rely on them. Which sux... i haven't got many cousins to call for help lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opY71mwvLJI 

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Originally posted by 68AutoBug Quote: Originally posted by h nsw.. haha sucks to be you guys.. Where do you live???? I thought all states were going to have the same laws...?? LEE

absolutely ridiculous,im sure half these people who think of these rules,never actually THINK,im sure they do excatly what everyone else does in the state yet they dont think of that.I bet they never get booked.