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checking body and engine numbers?
nsuwift - August 31st, 2010 at 05:10 PM

Is there a website where you could check the engine/body numbers to see if they match. The reason I ask is my notchback seems to have a noise coming from the main bearing. And I can get a replacement motor for it, but would rather keep the other one if it is original.


68AutoBug - August 31st, 2010 at 05:19 PM

Hi
I don't know of any websites for the type 3 then again I've never looked.. lol

put Your engine and chassis number on here..

I'm sure someone can help

LEE


waveman1500 - August 31st, 2010 at 06:10 PM

What a strange sentiment. Surely if you don't even know now whether your engine is original or not, why would replacing it with another one matter?

The easiest, but not necessarily most reliable, way to check whether it's the original engine or not is to look on the rego papers. Engine numbers are recorded on the vehicle registration database, and in my experience people generally don't bother to get it changed on their paperwork when they do an engine change.


pod - August 31st, 2010 at 10:16 PM

its not a strange sentiment ,as in a few years time when people are looking for matching numbers cars they are worth more dollars.And in NSW yearly pink slip inspections would show its not changed and the records would be put right..


Phil74Camper - September 1st, 2010 at 08:13 AM

I don't think there'd be many VWs left still with their original engines. It's probably important in the expensive classic car scene - does that Deusenberg or Jaguar E-Type still have its original engine? But it's not something we check at the concours judging at the VW Nationals, except for context. You'd expect an oval to still have a 36-hp 1200, and a Superbug to have a twin-port 1600, but otherwise no one knows or cares if the engine number is the exact original. Yours might not even the same engine now that it left Clayton with. Flat Four didn't check engine engine numbers at the Shootout either, and no 1500 Type 3 ever lost points because it had a new 1600 long block in it. Unless it dripped oil.

I don't think the Australian assembly records, of what engine was fitted to what chassis number, still exist (if they ever did).

I think you could replace your existing Type 3 1500 with any rebuilt similar engine and no one would care. Changing the number at the RTA is not an issue if it's the same type. By all means have your existing engine rebuilt if you want; contact your local VW specialist.


68AutoBug - September 1st, 2010 at 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by waveman1500

and in my experience people generally don't bother to get it changed on their paperwork when they do an engine change.



Hi
You do in NSW....
or it costs YOU money...
and can put Your vehicle off the road...

Many mechanics who do rego checks every year [in NSW] also check the engine number...

Police can also check it...

I;ve always changed the numbers on All My cars over the years...

LEE


PS: and having the original engine means nothing to Me...
even though My Beetle has the original engine, if it needed replacing it would be... LEE


patbot - April 9th, 2011 at 04:44 PM

Hi, I've occasionally wondered if mine has matching numbers and assumed it didn't because my mum said something about my dad having had a reconditioned engine put in and we're not even the first owners, but I thought I'd check just for the sake of it. The chassis (under the seat) has 3642029, and where I've circled on the pic has 6792904... are they in any way matching for what is supposed to be a '61 bug? Cheers.

http://img713.imageshack.us/i/img1416xb.jpg


volumex - April 9th, 2011 at 07:46 PM

Link to Type 3 chassis number/engine number info: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/serialnumberst3.php 
As has been said, use rego papers or delivery papers if you can as Australian numbers can be screwy compared to German records.

Either way, get the noise investigated as, depending on what the noise is, the case may be saved if it is a bearing letting go and it is caught early enough.


volumex - April 9th, 2011 at 07:50 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by patbot
Hi, I've occasionally wondered if mine has matching numbers and assumed it didn't because my mum said something about my dad having had a reconditioned engine put in and we're not even the first owners, but I thought I'd check just for the sake of it. The chassis (under the seat) has 3642029, and where I've circled on the pic has 6792904... are they in any way matching for what is supposed to be a '61 bug? Cheers.

http://img713.imageshack.us/i/img1416xb.jpg

Chassis is early Feb 61 & engine is May 62.
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/bugchassisdating.php 
Same caveat re Australian numbers as above.