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weight of a late type 3?
pete wood - September 2nd, 2010 at 07:39 PM

just wondering if anyone has the weight figures for a late fasty/square?

just interested in how they compare to a beetle. I've heard figures round the 1100kg mark for them. Is this true?


13bwagon - September 2nd, 2010 at 07:58 PM

i was thinking 950 to 1000 but might be up to 1100 they are beefy
so yeah a square could easy be 1100


pete wood - September 2nd, 2010 at 08:08 PM

mmm, interesting. I wonder how heavy troy's fasty is?


vw54 - September 2nd, 2010 at 08:10 PM

put it this way 6 guys to lift a bear Type 3 shell

2 guys to lift a Type 1 bear shell

in otherwords BLOODY heavy


zocstar - September 2nd, 2010 at 08:13 PM

i just checked my rego papers, 69 squareback 940. (thats if they weighed it)


pete wood - September 2nd, 2010 at 08:26 PM

yeah, but that's not a real figure. My beetle was spose to weigh 780kg stock and I guarantee it was never that light. My buggy with a subaru engine and a 100kg body and stuff is an honest 900kg without me in it but ready to drive. I know that's a little heavy for a buggy but that's reality.


vlad01 - September 2nd, 2010 at 09:13 PM

1035 Kg for the late squre
960 Kg for the notch

fasty ?? f**ked if I know? 980?


vlad01 - September 2nd, 2010 at 09:27 PM

ok looked on the net and my wheels road test specs of the type 3. 860Kg? they recon. For both notch and fasty.

I am confused coz the user manual states as the previous post.


pete wood - September 2nd, 2010 at 10:05 PM

mate of mine used to own a late fasty and reckoned it was heavier than his square. more metal in the back.


vlad01 - September 3rd, 2010 at 07:32 AM

what!? they have less metal and less glass and less one deck type rear seat.


pete wood - September 3rd, 2010 at 09:02 AM

dunno, but he had a tle fasty (ex tle by then) and a stock square, both late model. he reckoned the fasty was a nicer car, but it was noticably heavier. He put it down to more metal in the rear pillars and such.


vlad01 - September 3rd, 2010 at 10:53 AM

how was it noticeable?


pete wood - September 3rd, 2010 at 01:38 PM

both cars had same motors, interior etc, but the fasty didn't go as hard. both were well tuned and looked after. I know you're gonna say, the square had a lower 1st gear, and that's true, but even still he reckoned the fasty was heavier. More metal and heavier construction in the fasty he said. Which adds up with peops comments about squares warping with non-aircooled conversions unless they are well braced.

BTW, he called his square, "the slug" :yes:


vlad01 - September 3rd, 2010 at 02:01 PM

I had a TLE fasty and it accelerated much faster than my square but it did have a slower top end.

Only reason the squares are less rigid is coz of the design of the high roof area at the back and no firewall sort of thing like the notch and fasty.


vlad01 - September 3rd, 2010 at 02:31 PM

http://www.vwtypethree.com/manuals/371/page65.html  late model. 71

http://www.vwtypethree.com/manuals/367/page49.html  early model. 67

Very interesting.


LIFE IN THE LOW LANE - September 3rd, 2010 at 02:34 PM

Troy is yet to put his car on the scales but with all the extra engine mounts bracing, turbo, intercooler, Dry sump tank, manifolds, oil coolers and extra gearbox mounts plus all that is inside the car he roughly figures the car to weigh close to if not heavier than 1200kg easy. So running 13.66@ 102mph or something to that degree with only 168HP atw aint bad so considering it now has just over 230hp atw should be interesting to see the difference in times.


pete wood - September 3rd, 2010 at 02:43 PM

see that's what I thought.


VW-VARIANT-L - September 3rd, 2010 at 08:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by vlad01
http://www.vwtypethree.com/manuals/371/page65.html  late model. 71

http://www.vwtypethree.com/manuals/367/page49.html  early model. 67

Very interesting.


in summary,
1971- unladen weights : sedan 1010kg squareback 1035kg
1967- unladen weights : sedan ( fastback) 920kg squareback 950kg

According to the factory / manuals, the squareback was always 25-30kg heavier than the sedan/fastback.


pete wood - October 8th, 2010 at 03:07 PM

sorry, I know this is an old thread.

does anyone have some NSW rego papers with the weight recorded on em for a late square?

might be hatching an evil plan...:dork: