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Finding a cars history from the engine and chassis numbers?
benjicon - November 4th, 2010 at 09:19 AM

Hey guys,

I have heard and read that there are places (web sites) where you can find your cars history and birth certificate, I have looked on google and for the life of me I cant find one that seems even slightly helpful.

Could anyone point me towards a good source of information ?

Cheers.. Ben.


benjicon - November 4th, 2010 at 10:19 AM

Just found this thread..

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=70689&page=1 

Awesome read, My bugs a 57 ... so I think I'll try my luck with the "AutoMuseum" in Germany and see what the birth certificate shows me.

Ben.


Phil74Camper - November 4th, 2010 at 10:24 AM

We live in Australia. Our Volkswagens - those sold from late 1954 to 1976 - were CKD-assembled and later fully manufactured in Melbourne. Volkswagen AG does not have the production details of Australian-made Volkswagens - these records were destroyed in 1968 when VWA Ltd went out of business, with another clean-out in 1977 when the factory was sold to Nissan. They no longer exist.

VW AG does provide a certificate service, which is popular with American and European VW fans. Their VWs were made in Germany. IT DOESN'T WORK FOR AUSTRALIAN VOLKSWAGENS. By all means pay the money and send them your VW's chassis number, but you will get back either details that make no sense (they only have the chassis 'block' details, not what VW Australia did with them), or a note saying the 'Chassis Number Does not Exist' - especially for Australian '65-'67 Beetles with 19y nnnnnn numbers.

But if you still want an official VW Birth Certificate, VW requires a payment of 35 Euro by credit card (VISA/Mastercard only), or cheque along with your full name, VIN (chassis) number. Personal cheques can be made out to "Stiftung AutoMuseum Volkswagen". You can mail credit card details or a checque to:
Stiftung AutoMuseum Volkswagen
Brieffach 1003
Frau Neefe
Dieselstrasse 35
D-38436 Wolfsburg Germany

The easiest way may be to pay by credit card online. Just go to the VW Museum Website:

http://automuseum.volkswagen.de/index.php?id=12&L=1 

After a couple of months you will get an A4 letter, on official VW Museum letterhead, that has:
Build date
Delivery date
Delivery Destination
Original colors and upholstery
Optional extras (M-codes)

For your '57, VW will have a record of the CKD kit's chassis number and when it was dispatched from Germany. Destination for early Aussie chassis numbers is usually 'Fiji' for whatever reason. Colour Codes and Extras will be blank.


benjicon - November 4th, 2010 at 11:01 AM

Hey Phil,

Cheers for the reply, so its pretty pointless to get a birth Cert from Germania. What about registration history here in Australia ? Any places I can go to find that info?


Phil74Camper - November 4th, 2010 at 12:52 PM

Hi, well there's nothing wrong with sending off anyway, if you're happy to part with 35 Euro. Your car is pretty early so you might get some interesting info - and it will be something to keep. It's more for the 1965-67 Aussies that it's a total waste of money.

Sorry to disappoint you again, but the RTA does not have any historical rego detail, older than about 1990. I'm told that all the old printed records were destroyed years ago when it used to be the DMR. I'm not even sure if they give out any previous owner detail since 1990 - privacy acts and so on. Go ahead and enquire and let us know the results.

Another place you could try is the National Archives in Canberra - they may have kept copies of the DMR's records.


volumex - November 4th, 2010 at 01:01 PM

Ben,
Just so you can see what you will get, this is the birth certificate I got for my 56, which is an Australian CKD.

http://lancia.googlepages.com/56BirthCertificate.jpg


volumex - November 4th, 2010 at 01:04 PM

If the car was ever registered in Victoria, you may be able to get the VicRoads data from here: http://www.aomc.asn.au/eng&regrecords.htm