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356 engine curious
amazeer - January 20th, 2011 at 11:06 PM

just saw a pic of a 356 engine in an oval and had a hmmmm thought.

What would an average rebuildable 356 cost. Would they be any more expensive to rebuild than a VW 36er?


amazeer - January 20th, 2011 at 11:27 PM

holy crap, never mind, this guy wants $5K for a seized one. ?????
http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e11030.m43.l1123/7?euid=22ca1f12b53249ec933ef77...


bajachris88 - January 21st, 2011 at 01:32 AM

perhaps look for a porsche 912 engine.
They have 356 derived running gear, so 'technically' could call it a 356 engine :)
Just like how the kombi's have porsche 2ltr engines ;)


bajachris88 - January 21st, 2011 at 01:34 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsche-356-912-engine-rebuilt-original-comple...

here u go :tu:

$3600 fully rebuilt with $500 shippin from states


amazeer - January 21st, 2011 at 07:15 AM

yeah I saw that one too but like the 914/kombi same isnt same. That looks heaps wider than could fit in an oval/356 engine bay. And because its 10 years older than the oval it wouldnt quite cut it as a "period accessory"


matberry - January 21st, 2011 at 07:56 AM

Yes, Chris, they are more expensive to rebuild than a 36er but not rediculously more. They are certainly more engine and sooo similar in feel, sound, looks, vintage and parts availability but 1600 and 75-90hp stock. Mind you 90hp 356 engine is a joy to drive in a 356, I reckon one would be beautiful in a bug. I've rebuilt a few and know where there are some engines for sale, so if you need any input feel free to give us a yell.


Joel - January 21st, 2011 at 09:04 AM

Just stick a battery in, she'll be good to go :lol:

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/Vbug74/106557.jpg


I Remember seeing a bug many years back with a Carrera 4 engine in it, those engines fetch about $100k these days

http://www.scaleautoworks.com/4camEng2.jpg


HappyDaze - January 21st, 2011 at 09:16 AM

There were a few - not many - Beetles with 356 engines getting about in the late '50s, early '60s. The options then were not like to-day, so it was the 356, a Judson blower, Denzel conversion, or maybe 2 carbies, if you wanted more go.

As Matt says, they are a beautiful engine, and would be great in an early Beetle. The early 356 engine is OK, but could be improved (if doing a re-build) by fitting later bits. 912 crank, rods, etc. can be fitted to make a very reliable, strong engine. Well worth considering.


amazeer - January 21st, 2011 at 07:08 PM

Not sure how long I've had my oval for. Must be getting close to 20 years. It was going to be a callooker, then a faithful restore, and somehow last night 356 power got into my head. Who knows where I will be when I finally have the cash to do anything. But yeah I'm pretty excited about porsche power today.

I have 3 or 4 complete 36ers I can swap :)


vlad01 - January 21st, 2011 at 07:38 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Joel
Just stick a battery in, she'll be good to go :lol:

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j154/Vbug74/106557.jpg


I Remember seeing a bug many years back with a Carrera 4 engine in it, those engines fetch about $100k these days

http://www.scaleautoworks.com/4camEng2.jpg


you mean carrera 2 GS. carrera 4 is the later 911s with AWD.

anyway the quad cam 356 engines are a beast. Perhaps you might want to talk to Jake Raby at Air cooler technology. He is a Porsche and vw nut, specialty being type 4 engine, best in the world at them.

Perhaps even a basic 2056cc with 135hp and good for 250,000kms +

About 10k that one costs.

http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/index.php 

check it out anyway. He has engine packages for 356, 912 and 914s too, not just vw's
;)