Semaphore indicators ---AKA TRAFFICATORS
wants2buyaVW - April 11th, 2011 at 04:36 PM
Hey Veedubers
If a beetle has semaphore indicators what year range would it be. i saw one today and was just wondering.
Thanks guys
HappyDaze - April 11th, 2011 at 05:08 PM
Up until mid 1960.
Stinkbug - April 11th, 2011 at 07:49 PM
i thought semaphores finished on the 58 or 59. first of the big back window? correct me if im wrong please.
Stinkbug - April 11th, 2011 at 07:50 PM
what did the back window look like? oval?
groovy - April 11th, 2011 at 09:03 PM
i have a 58 bug and it has semaphores and a big back window.
ive also had a 60 bug but did not have semaphores.
bushed - April 11th, 2011 at 09:10 PM
Hi ALL
some 1960(not 61 onwards) bugs still had emm and olde tanks etc
they were bitzers made in Australia to use up odd parts from 50s
all 50ies had semaphores!
I have a very good set if u need one $300 posted
Also hve bits to make some rattie ones
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i have a 58 bug and it has semaphores and a big back window.
ive also had a 60 bug but did not have semaphores.
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volumex - April 11th, 2011 at 09:34 PM
They were deleted on 1 Aug 1960, chassis number 3 192 507.
The start of the 1961 year model was 1 Oct 1960, chassis number 3 335 848.
wants2buyaVW - April 12th, 2011 at 11:00 AM
thanks guys, the one i saw was a large rear window so im thinking 58-59
68AutoBug - April 12th, 2011 at 11:09 AM
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They were deleted on 1 Aug 1960, chassis number 3 192 507.
The start of the 1961 year model was 1 Oct 1960, chassis number 3 335 848.
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and they were called trafficators...
never semaphores... only in the USA...
and they had blinkers from 1955 in the USA...
bullet type on the front and the stop light blinked Red...
aka 1956 FE holdens also had the stop lamp flashing....
although it may have been an optional extra .. lol
LEE
volumex - April 12th, 2011 at 11:35 AM
Semaphores seems to be widely used in Australia and the UK. (have a look at pre67 - I did a search for "semaphore" and it returned 20 pages of
hits)
So you are correct, but practically semaphore is IMHO the most widely used term and I am going to keep using it. Using "trafficator" is just going
to get blank e-stares from people who have no idea what you are tallking about.
If we are going to get all AVD, then they aren't "blinkers" they are "flashing direction indicators" 
HappyDaze - April 12th, 2011 at 12:41 PM
In the early '60s, I worked for two different VW dealers. We called them SEMAPHORES. Doesn't really matter what you call them, as long as they work!
68AutoBug - April 12th, 2011 at 12:44 PM
[size=4]Yes
Blinkers were actually used on horses.... and still are ....
in horse racing...
so, We have trafficators...
semaphores were traffic signals in the USA in the Very early years they worked just like two trafficators..
one was STOP and one was GO.
but trafficator is not in the USA english language...
trafficators were also used on many UK cars.... BMC austin Morris riley wolseley etc
and Flashers or flashing directional indicators lol
BUT hockey stick and doghouse is used everywhere... lol
but engine/gearbox/transaxle mounts are NOT called bananas or banana mounts..?? lol
IMHO {in My humble opinion...]
LEE
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annosL - April 12th, 2011 at 12:53 PM
When I got my licence (S.A. 1964) I had to still use hand signals at stop signs etc even though the Vanguard I was driving had
semaphores/trafficators, did anyone else have to do this (sorry for the thread hijack!) The Policeman was of a "mature" age though but then there
were heaps of cars, not only veedubs, which had semaphores and trucks had the hinged fake arms which extended out for turning. My brother-in-law
bought a 1959 beetle new and it had trafficators, this car started my interest in beetles.
annosL - April 12th, 2011 at 12:57 PM
In pre-radio days "semaphore" was a signalling system with arms or flags from hill top to hilltop or ship to ship, used by the military in world war
1 too
beetleboyjeff - April 12th, 2011 at 01:39 PM
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Originally
posted by annosL
When I got my licence (S.A. 1964) I had to still use hand signals at stop signs etc even though the Vanguard I was driving had
semaphores/trafficators, did anyone else have to do this (sorry for the thread hijack!) The Policeman was of a "mature" age though but then there
were heaps of cars, not only veedubs, which had semaphores and trucks had the hinged fake arms which extended out for turning. My brother-in-law
bought a 1959 beetle new and it had trafficators, this car started my interest in beetles.
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When I got my licence in NSW in 1974, I had to do the arm signals.
Incidently, the 1959 beetle I had then had blinkers on the B pillar where the semaphore arms usually go. I had seen a lot of them like that around at
the time.
68AutoBug - April 12th, 2011 at 09:23 PM
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posted by annosL
In pre-radio days "semaphore" was a signalling system with arms or flags from hill top to hilltop or ship to ship, used by the military in world war
1 too
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I was in the town of Semaphore in South Australia Last year...
There are light houses and semaphore poles or whatever they are called..
in a triangle where the semaphores used to be hung to signal ships.... these are always on a hill too...
LEE
How trafficators came to be called semaphores ?????
68AutoBug - April 12th, 2011 at 09:32 PM
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posted by annosL
When I got my licence (S.A. 1964) I had to still use hand signals at stop signs etc even though the Vanguard I was driving had
semaphores/trafficators, did anyone else have to do this (sorry for the thread hijack!) The Policeman was of a "mature" age though but then there
were heaps of cars, not only veedubs, which had semaphores and trucks had the hinged fake arms which extended out for turning. My brother-in-law
bought a 1959 beetle new and it had trafficators, this car started my interest in beetles.
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When I got my licence in NSW in 1974, I had to do the arm signals.
Incidently, the 1959 beetle I had then had blinkers on the B pillar where the semaphore arms usually go. I had seen a lot of them like that around at
the time.
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I got My licence in QLD in Texas... around 1967...
most trucks still had the extending hand Stop or turn right signal...
those hands would be called dangerous these days.... lol
I had those B pillar HELLA blinkers on My 1959 beetle too..
I still have one of those here somewhere.. maybe 2.. lol
LEE
PS: I was at a servo in Scone a few years ago, and an older woman in a Morris Minor had just gotten Her car passed for Rego.. as She
pulled out of the driveway...
OUT popped the Trafficator....
The Mechanic said." I told her those are illegal and NOT to use them" Lee