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annosL - April 14th, 2011 at 02:17 PM

R.I.P the Titanic folk, sunk 100 years ago today

Joel - April 14th, 2011 at 02:22 PM

Not trying to be a smartarse but it was april 15th 1912.
got one year and one more day.

VolksVair - April 14th, 2011 at 07:54 PM

They must of had global warming then too???

annosL - April 14th, 2011 at 08:25 PM

Hey your right Joel! (maybe I'm a year younger:blush:)

vwjon - April 14th, 2011 at 09:19 PM

1500+ dead the greatest peace time loss of life at sea.

Ollie - April 15th, 2011 at 08:23 AM

I've always been interested in the titanic for some reason? Maybe it was the grand nature of it's design, or the complete demise of someones fantastic dream. Either way, I think it's a pretty amazing event- i'd love to go down and observe the wreck one day

bajachris88 - April 15th, 2011 at 09:57 AM

I had this crazy idea once, of getting an army of marine robots to fill millions of balloons of air inside each half of the titanic, then surface it, and restore it.

Had sick would that be :tu:
A titanic project, titanic bill, but titanic awesumness.

Remember i did say it was a crazy idea :cool:
Isn't it a case that what ever wrecks are in international waters you can claim or sumfin??

Joel - April 15th, 2011 at 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by annosL
Hey your right Joel! (maybe I'm a year younger:blush:)


I've had a fascination with it for a good 20 years or so now ;)

phatratpat - April 15th, 2011 at 03:17 PM

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Originally posted by bajachris88
I had this crazy idea once, of getting an army of marine robots to fill millions of balloons of air inside each half of the titanic, then surface it, and restore it.

Had sick would that be :tu:
A titanic project, titanic bill, but titanic awesumness.

Remember i did say it was a crazy idea :cool:
Isn't it a case that what ever wrecks are in international waters you can claim or sumfin??


are you on crack Chris ? ?:no:

bajachris88 - April 15th, 2011 at 03:30 PM

Just watch too much McGuyver

Give him a straw, a napkin and 3 paperclips and he'll be able to do it for us :tu:

Smiley - April 16th, 2011 at 12:45 PM

It's a shame. Such a grand machine.

And they have predicted that where won't be anything of it left in 90 odd years. Is slowly being eaten away by a form of underwater corrosion.


Did anyone else read the book 'Raise the Titanic!' by Clive Cussler.
The protagonist uses a similar method as described by Chris above. BUT, this book was written before the wreck was discovered and they made the realisation that it had broken in two pieces while sinking. So in the book the ship is in one piece. They float it to the surface, and tow it to America, completing it's journey some 80 odd years later.

A good book, I would recommend it.

Shame it is such a logistical and monetary nightmare to try and recover the ship in two pieces.



Smiley :cool:

Joel - April 16th, 2011 at 01:44 PM

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Originally posted by Smiley
It's a shame. Such a grand machine.

And they have predicted that where won't be anything of it left in 90 odd years. Is slowly being eaten away by a form of underwater corrosion.



Another 90 years it will literally be nothing, probably only be another 20 and the bow won't even resemble a ship anymore as it's already collapsing in on itself it wont be much longer till the whole structure caves in.

Just seeing the before and after pics Robert Ballard took on his last dive of how much it's gone to shit in just the last 15 years unreal.

vwjon - April 16th, 2011 at 04:36 PM

is there a link to the Titanic pictures before and after?

Baja Chris, i believe that salvage rights are permissable so long as the wreck is not declared a grave site, which i think it is, so things are "supposed" to be left with the victims. i understand the stuff in the exibitions etc were brought to the surface before it was declared a grave site.
Back in the UK i knew a few guys who would take brass and copper from U-boats etc (which are war graves) if they got cayght the Sht would hit the fan!! they told me that they tried to salvage the mercury from the dive tanks of a submarine, they filled a metal bucket but it was way too heavy to lift from the sea bed, so its probably still there!

Joel - April 16th, 2011 at 05:54 PM

It was in a National Geographic but they may have pics on their website?

phatratpat - April 16th, 2011 at 07:58 PM

name the Titanic s 2 sister ships.....and their fates ! .....;)

vwjon - April 16th, 2011 at 08:35 PM

Olympic was ship No3, crashed several times but was scrapped in the UK
Titanic was ship No2, sank by an iceberg on maiden voyage,
Britanic was ship No1, either torpeadoed or mined and sank off the Greak coast.

interesting reading here! http://www.starway.org/Titanic/Sister_Ships.html 

Joel - April 16th, 2011 at 08:45 PM

Damn it Patty you coulda atleast made it challanging.

Actually what sank Britanic has always been a contentious topic.
Some say mine, some say torpedo and many believe she was secretly carrying ammo that exploded.

Ballard did find that some plates are bent outwards like it had an internal explosion but meh who knows.

zocstar - April 17th, 2011 at 06:46 AM

It's a good thing that we have made sure this kind of disaster will never happen again by melting all the icebergs.

phatratpat - April 17th, 2011 at 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by Joel
Damn it Patty you coulda atleast made it challanging.

Actually what sank Britanic has always been a contentious topic.
Some say mine, some say torpedo and many believe she was secretly carrying ammo that exploded.

Ballard did find that some plates are bent outwards like it had an internal explosion but meh who knows.


coal dust in the bunkers of the Britannic could have been responsible for the secondary explosion !

the Olympic actually turned on a u boat in ww1 gave chase and rammed her...there goes the theory on the rudder being too small.....if the first officer hadn't ordered engines full astern the titanic probably would have missed !
but then again if my aunty had balls she would be my uncle :no:

empi - April 17th, 2011 at 03:42 PM

Brittanic sank in relitively shallow water and is believed to be mort intact that its sister on the sea bed!!

Found this on you tube not Titanic but interesting none the less...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rq68G5xVOQ 

Lucky Phil - April 17th, 2011 at 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by Joel
Quote:
Originally posted by Smiley
It's a shame. Such a grand machine.

And they have predicted that where won't be anything of it left in 90 odd years. Is slowly being eaten away by a form of underwater corrosion.



Another 90 years it will literally be nothing, probably only be another 20 and the bow won't even resemble a ship anymore as it's already collapsing in on itself it wont be much longer till the whole structure caves in.

Just seeing the before and after pics Robert Ballard took on his last dive of how much it's gone to shit in just the last 15 years unreal.

The corrosion is a biological agent which is why it's happening so fast. It's not rustig, it's being eaten!

Joel - April 17th, 2011 at 07:37 PM

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Originally posted by phatratpat
.if the first officer hadn't ordered engines full astern the titanic probably would have missed !



Very true, reversing the engines lost all there steering power

A tragic loss of life but it served as the wake up call mankind needed
The first ship they call unsinkable sinks on it's maiden voyage.

Aint that Irony for ya.

It's sitting at just the right depth that the organisms eating it are in Paradise.

If it was a bit deeper it would be safe.
The Bismarck which sank in WW2 is sitting at 4.7kms down is too deep for anything to survive so it's beautifully preserved

You can still even see the swastikas painted on the deck floorboards after 66 years

http://www.bismarck-class.dk/bismarck/wreck/pictures/5_aft_rudder_area/05_collapsed_stern_air_marking.jpg

phatratpat - April 18th, 2011 at 05:32 PM

the swastika on the bow still has the red paint around it
still reckon it was scuttled by the crew