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Me and Thvee - May 21st, 2011 at 10:53 PM

Ive been looking for a beetle for a few months now and the only reason i haven't bought one is im not sure, standard or super???
I know some of the differences.
Super
Macpherson struts
good turning
Apparently has an uglier shape???(haven't seen both side by side i just logged into this site for the first time in months and noticed that the nationals are on so im gonna go to that to see the difference)
Cheaper + i already have some parts off a 72 super
standard
torsion beam
bouncey?
More expensive

Heres what i want out of my Beetle acceleration and turning ability, im not really interested in top speed since if i race there will be lots of turns (straight runs don't seem like a challange).
Based on what i just said i am guessing everyone is going to say go for a 1600 dual port super but i want to hear if anyone will say otherwise.
Are there advantages of having a standard around turns?
is the shape of the super uglier then the standard?
Also further down the track i may possibly do a chop top as well as put in a turbo engine.(dont factor in the engine doubt ill want to spend the money hahaha)

Lucky Phil - May 22nd, 2011 at 11:42 AM

Go the Super! Macpherson struts in the front and IRS in the back gives superior handling.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I dont think the looks are any less appealing. Just a little different.
Supers are ultimately going to be the rarer car in the future so grab one now while they are cheap!

Me and Thvee - May 22nd, 2011 at 02:08 PM

I just got back from the nationals and im still in a conundrum, so many nice standard ovals (the oval just blends so nicely) tbh i think most of the ones i liked were standard ovals :-/

Joel - May 22nd, 2011 at 08:22 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Lucky Phil
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I dont think the looks are any less appealing. Just a little different.


Agreed.
Its mainly the standard Beetle purists clutching at straws trying to find a reason not to like them.

To 99% of the public and even alot of VW enthusists they both just look like Beetles, the shape and overall layout is the same and most don't even spot the difference between a standard and superbug without studying the 2 closely parked side by side.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v134/sdcvw/VW%20tech/supervsstandardpic.jpg

waveman1500 - May 22nd, 2011 at 08:36 PM

For a race car with corners the Super is the way to go! I used to have a 1500, now have an S-Bug. The Superbug undoubtedly handles better. Looks don't really matter for a race car, although I think mine looks alright. I do slightly prefer the look of a standard bug though.

http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo304/waveman1500/Superbug/DayoftheVolkswagen2011006.jpg

From the rear the '68-onwards standard and the S-Bug look exactly the same. If you put earlier guards on it the L-bug can be converted to look the same as well.

http://i386.photobucket.com/albums/oo304/waveman1500/Superbug/DayoftheVolkswagen2011001.jpg

STIDUB - May 22nd, 2011 at 08:37 PM

look at the race people on here, most run supers / L bugs or "76" spec beam, balljoint beam irs rear, super as far as im aware is ever so slightly heavier, each to their own, my advice, drive a good & bad example of each & go from there, suss out the hillclimb crowd & the circuit people from the sprints that we just had :)