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road_zombie - December 24th, 2011 at 03:39 PM

looking at a new engine for a bug gut l know has one all l have is a engine no can someone tell me what size it is of the number
AR111618
cheers in advance

merry christmas and a happy new year to all

grazza7755 - December 24th, 2011 at 04:50 PM

Any chance that it is an AH which would be a 1600 Type 1
Not aware of their being as AR.

road_zombie - December 24th, 2011 at 05:01 PM

thanks possible could be AH motor is dirty and got the number 3rd hand once again thanks

Sides - December 24th, 2011 at 05:23 PM

Hmm... how about AD... a D is closer in shape to an R than what H in my opinion.

No matter tho - AD's again would have been a 1600 Type 1 in their original form.

68AutoBug - December 25th, 2011 at 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by road_zombie
looking at a new engine for a bug gut l know has one all l have is a engine no can someone tell me what size it is of the number
AR111618
cheers in advance

merry christmas and a happy new year to all

AR were 1300 engines made between 1st aug 73 and 31st july 74 in germany...

AB were also 1300 engines 1972

AD were 1972 1600 engines...

as You may know... getting an engine number off someone..
and the number is correct isn't a good possibility..
many people either leave out a digit or get the letters wrong
lol

cheers

LEE Ho Ho Ho

Joel - December 25th, 2011 at 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by grazza7755
Any chance that it is an AH which would be a 1600 Type 1
Not aware of their being as AR.

Stop referencing American sites for aussie cars.
We used a different bunch of engine codes to them.

As above AR and AB were aussie 1300s which US never got so as far as they are concerned they don't exist.

road_zombie - December 25th, 2011 at 06:31 PM

1973 (1 Aug 72 to 31 July 73)
Chassis 113,2000,001 - 113,3200,000
VW1303 133,2000,001 - 133,3200,000 (superbug)
Engine D 1,000,001 - D 1,115,873
Engine AC 0,006,701 - AC 0,008,195
Engine AB 0,699,002 - AB 0,990,000
Engine AF 0,000,802 - AF 0,036,768
Engine AE 0,917,264 - AE 1,000,000 (to 1 Oct 72)
Engine AK 0,000,001 - AK 0,239,364 (from 1 Oct 72)
Engine AH 0,005,901 - AH 0,114,418
Engine AD 0,598,002 - AD 0,990,000

Reduced horsepower in US models (60 to 58 SAE).
600 watt (50 amp) alternator replaces generator in mid year.
Improved intake pre-heating for faster cold weather warm-up.
Engine case near No3/flywheel is reinforced to prevent cracking.
Softer transmission mounting.
Softer clutch.
Porsche style pressure plate.
No oil drain plug in oil strainer cover plate.
New fuel pump (with cut-off valve) to clear alternator.
Paper air filter.
New ‘lifetime lubricated' front and rear wheel bearings.
Larger curved windscreen and smaller front lid to luggage compartment.
New dash in super beetle.
Redesigned fresh air system.
New interior light assembly.
Stronger bumpers.
Large round (Elephant Foot) tail lights.
‘Sports Bug' option.
New front seats with multiple adjustment.
Outer door handles get ‘two finger' indents on trigger.

1974 (1 Aug 73 to 31 July 74)
Chassis 114,2000,001 - 114,2999,000
VW1303 134,2000,001 - 134,2999,000 (superbug)
Engine D 1,115,874 - D 1,284,228
Engine AR 000,001 - AR 121,271 44bhp(DIN)1300
Engine AS 000,001 - AS 171,566 50bhp(DIN)1600

Self restoring energy absorbing bumpers.
Quieter muffler.
New cylinder head alloy for better heat dissipation.
"Softer" steering wheel to improve safety.
Smaller front headrests give better rear vision.
Computer sensor pressed into top of block to give TDC.
Computer sensor for ignition voltage. Seat belt ignition interlock. Seat belt and brake warning light combined.
Super beetle and convertible have slight negative king pin offset.
Super beetle has square glove box knob.
Warning light for hand brake.
Ghia has thicker front disc pads.
Last year of Ghia in the US.
Internal regulator to alternator in late 74.
Distributor gets vacuum and centrifugal advance.

road_zombie - December 25th, 2011 at 06:46 PM

looking at a 74 L with the above engine

Joel - December 25th, 2011 at 07:52 PM

More American spec info, about 2% of that applies aus.

It started out life as 1300 twin port in a 74 1300 standard bug, not Lbug but if its been apart its probably 1600 or bigger.

77mm twinport heads haven't been available for decades, and similar story with the p&c.
Given the 1600 heads and p&c bolt straight on, are cheaper and give a capacity boost thats the way most end up but you won't know till its pulled down.

road_zombie - December 26th, 2011 at 08:50 AM

Thanks the bug has the L badge on the engine cover and its supposed to be all orig so l'll work on it being a 1300 for now

Joel - December 26th, 2011 at 10:53 AM

You can usually ignore what the engine lid says after 4 decades.

Which dash does it have?

Yogie - December 26th, 2011 at 11:14 AM

Hi Joel, Off topic a bit but I want one of those air conditioner units for under the dash. Any idea of someone that may have one?

Yogie

Joel - December 26th, 2011 at 11:38 AM

Original DPD/volkswerks Flatscreen units like that in RHD are like rocking horse crap as the only markets that really used them were Japan and Malaysia/Phillipines area.

Gilmore Enterprises and I.C.E A/C in the US make new ones in LHD.
It may be worth shooting them an email as I know they do Lbug systems in RHD.

Yogie - December 26th, 2011 at 12:32 PM

Thanks Joel. What is even harder is I need one for our Ghia as well.

Yogie

ragged - December 26th, 2011 at 01:03 PM

If I can throw in my two cents worth, AR is an aussie 1300 twin port engine out or a 1974 model (Aug '73 on build date) 1300 (ball joint front end with swing axle rear)
and would have had dual pre heater and alternator as standard from the factory.
Cheers Dave

Joel - December 26th, 2011 at 01:04 PM

I wish you best of luck with that one.
Again though, shoot Gilmore an email as they may do a RHD KG one too.