toyota flat 4
PAZZAN - January 1st, 2012 at 07:52 AM
http://www.themotorreport.com.au/52940/2012-toyota-gt-86-ft-86-unveiled-ahead...
68AutoBug - January 1st, 2012 at 08:15 AM
HI
I didn't look at the article....
Toyota and Subaru have been working on a rear wheel drive
sports car that is affordable... [under $40,000Au]
the car is all SUBARU with Subaru engine and transmission..
Toyota will replace the front bumper to make it look a bit different... inside is all subaru..
Subaru did NOT want to sell it in Australia due to their
ALL OUR CARS ARE AWD.... policy in Australia...
but have relented.. and the car will be sold in Australia..
I wonder if Nissan will do what they did years ago with the falcon ute.. want any parts go to a ford dealer... ;lol
nissan pulsar sold by Holden - nissan engined commodores..
etc..
LEE
shaihulud - January 1st, 2012 at 08:53 AM
It has a predictable shape, but nowadays most cars have that cloned shape. It might be aerodynamically efficient, but it's getting just a little
repetitive and boring. I now need to read the label to know what a car is.
Don't forget that towards the end of their careers, the Beatles music became repetitive and boring. We are overdue for a change in vehicle
shapes.
At least it doesn't have a wanker wing on the rear end.
Subarugears - January 1st, 2012 at 10:10 AM
....yet.....but it will. And SARD, ENKEI and RAZR stockers down the front guard....and a cannon exhaust....
It won't take long.
AyeBee - January 1st, 2012 at 11:34 AM
Looks like a Celica to me...
68AutoBug - January 1st, 2012 at 12:46 PM
Subaru calls it the BRZ ...
Lee
Camo - January 1st, 2012 at 01:41 PM
I like it 
Thanks PAZZAN for that, will keep an eye out for them when in showrooms.
Kev
vlad01 - January 1st, 2012 at 05:37 PM
So it has a suby engine? I thought there for a sec we had another transplant option.
"shrugs"
Yogie - January 1st, 2012 at 06:03 PM
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So it has a suby engine? I thought there for a sec we had another transplant option.
"shrugs"
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Given time we it will give more options as there will probably be more of the Toyota version sold than the Subaru due to their superior dealer
numbers.
Yogie
wolfgang54 - January 1st, 2012 at 06:29 PM
from what i read, the block only was given to toyota by subaru, toyota then developed the direct injection engine from there.....essentially a toyota
engine/engineering in subaru running gear. can only be a good thing!
narumi - January 1st, 2012 at 10:24 PM
FT86 in spirit of AE86
engine: FA20 / 4U-GSE
bore x stroke: 86 X 86
Smiley - January 2nd, 2012 at 06:39 PM
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Subaru did NOT want to sell it in Australia due to their
ALL OUR CARS ARE AWD.... policy in Australia...
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What about all of the front wheel drive vehicles that they sell??
Smiley 
donn - January 2nd, 2012 at 07:41 PM
^^^^^^^^^^which ones? ^^^^^^
1303Steve - January 2nd, 2012 at 08:06 PM
Hi
This car will appeal to the drifters who have been left with not many options, 86 being an iconic number in adrift circles as well, maybe Nissan will
bring out another Silvia.
Steve
narumi - January 4th, 2012 at 10:15 PM
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^^^^^^^^^^which ones? ^^^^^^
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from what i know base liberty(legacy), impreza
Craig Torrens - January 5th, 2012 at 08:15 PM
147kw......that makes the car under powered IMO !
Bizarre - January 5th, 2012 at 08:30 PM
205Nm of torque at 6600rpm 
My Polo is 250Nm @ 2000-4500rpm
Joel - January 5th, 2012 at 08:43 PM
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^^^^^^^^^^which ones? ^^^^^^
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from what i know base liberty(legacy), impreza
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1000 eons ago yes that was the case... but these days the whole line up is AWD.
Bizarre - January 6th, 2012 at 12:57 PM
Will be interesting
http://www.caradvice.com.au/143882/toyota-ft-86-performance-data-sheet-leaked/
It is suppose to weigh 1230-ish kg's - which, I think is bloody light. Cant see dimensions, but I am guessing it is Celica sizes??
A 2005 Silly Car weighed in at 1580kg's
My Polo only weighs 1180 kg's
A Golf R is 1,476 kg's and it's torque is 330Nm @ 2400-5200rpm
Seeing as it has AWD it just seems bloody light in the torque figures
Subarugears - January 6th, 2012 at 01:52 PM
It doesn't have AWD. It uses an Aisin 6 speed gearbox to transmit torque to the rear wheels.
AA003 - January 6th, 2012 at 01:58 PM
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It doesn't have AWD. It uses an Aisin 6 speed gearbox to transmit torque to the rear wheels.
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Now that would be a nice conversion!
Bizarre - January 6th, 2012 at 02:00 PM
d'oh 
68AutoBug - January 6th, 2012 at 05:24 PM
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posted by narumi
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posted by donn
^^^^^^^^^^which ones? ^^^^^^
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from what i know base liberty(legacy), impreza
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1000 eons ago yes that was the case... but these days the whole line up is AWD.
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[size=4]that is why it wasn't coming to Australia as the Management in Australia wanted all subarus to be AWD...
but... now its coming here... as it should sell...
designed by Subaru & Toyota together...
they both wanted a rear wheel drive Not expensive sports car... the BRZ will be more expensive than the Toyota 86 as it will be top of the line
only...
from what I've read...
but Subaru RWD running gear...
LEE
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Subarugears - January 6th, 2012 at 08:01 PM
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posted by 68AutoBug
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posted by Joel
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posted by narumi
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posted by donn
^^^^^^^^^^which ones? ^^^^^^
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from what i know base liberty(legacy), impreza
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1000 eons ago yes that was the case... but these days the whole line up is AWD.
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[size=4]that is why it wasn't coming to Australia as the Management in Australia wanted all subarus to be AWD...
but... now its coming here... as it should sell...
designed by Subaru & Toyota together...
they both wanted a rear wheel drive Not expensive sports car... the BRZ will be more expensive than the Toyota 86 as it will be top of the line
only...
from what I've read...
but Subaru RWD running gear...
LEE
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No. Subaru engine only (with Toyota direct injection).
Aisin 5 speed RWD transmission (same as Honda S2000) and a random rear differential. Probably a Subaru/Nissan R180
narumi - January 6th, 2012 at 10:05 PM
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posted by 68AutoBug
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posted by Joel
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posted by narumi
| Quote: | Originally
posted by donn
^^^^^^^^^^which ones? ^^^^^^
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from what i know base liberty(legacy), impreza
|
1000 eons ago yes that was the case... but these days the whole line up is AWD.
|
[size=4]that is why it wasn't coming to Australia as the Management in Australia wanted all subarus to be AWD...
but... now its coming here... as it should sell...
designed by Subaru & Toyota together...
they both wanted a rear wheel drive Not expensive sports car... the BRZ will be more expensive than the Toyota 86 as it will be top of the line
only...
from what I've read...
but Subaru RWD running gear...
LEE
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No. Subaru engine only (with Toyota direct injection).
Aisin 5 speed RWD transmission (same as Honda S2000) and a random rear differential. Probably a Subaru/Nissan R180
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also I read somewhere a while ago that the subaru one MAY have AWD.
I guess that's not happening
Burrelli - January 6th, 2012 at 11:13 PM
I read somewhere the engine has a shorter sump and sits lower in the car than other Subarus.
Could be a good engine for conversion into VWs.
Subarugears - January 7th, 2012 at 06:36 AM
Oh yeah, it will be a ripper for putting into VW's. This Subie engine is even more compact than previous ones, has a shorter sump and still retains
the same bellhousing pattern so we can fit reversed 5 speed and 6 speed subie transaxles. It's going to get real busy in the conversion market.....
SebastienPeek - January 7th, 2012 at 06:44 AM
And that, kind sir, is very exciting!