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Welders Flash
whathaveidone - July 22nd, 2012 at 12:16 PM

does anyone have a magical cure for welders flash:sniffle:


Paulc1964au - July 22nd, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Prevention is better, were you wearing a visor?


whathaveidone - July 22nd, 2012 at 12:20 PM

yeah, but got myself when putting a tack in. one eye is now running like a tap and sore as hell. going to bed:sniffle::sniffle:


bussboy - July 22nd, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Old school remedy is to put milk into eye, never tried myself so not sure.


vwjon - July 22nd, 2012 at 12:24 PM

get an eye sooth from the chemist, pad over eye, and keep it closed!!


helbus - July 22nd, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Basically you have sunburt the back of your eye.

Eyes closed is the first step. Take a sedative and try and sleep it off.


LUFTMEISTER - July 22nd, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Rest and recovery. Keep eyes shut to stop light hitting sensitive areas. No fun at all.


vlad01 - July 22nd, 2012 at 01:46 PM

There is no magic remidy. However you can get anesthetic and antibiotic eye drops which help with pain an prevent infection. I have had UV burns to eyes several times in my life, mostly accidental but the 2 worst times took me out for 3-4 days which ironically was the first time I used an auto-mask. The other time i got it bad was from the 7kw UV-B ink curing lamps on a bottle printing line, there was no direct exposure just a little light scattering of inside of the machine plus the ozone gas didn't help either. Problem is you cant see UV light so u would be unaware of exposure.
The good news is UV is absorbed by the cornea and does make its way to the retina so it doesn't really cause a great deal of damage.


Lucky Phil - July 22nd, 2012 at 02:11 PM

Plenty of people will tack with their eyes closed.
Welding flash can get you through the eyelids!
Always wear a visor.
I've had a few small brushes with it but nothing serious.
I love the auto visor I bought a few years ago but it tends to flash me a bit.
I put it down to my lack of skill with the MIG.


vlad01 - July 22nd, 2012 at 02:43 PM

No it's the quality of the mask, not enough delay , probably not fast enough either. Try turning up the delay time.


1916baja - July 22nd, 2012 at 02:50 PM

The cheap auto masks dont even have any settings... i know mine doesn't. My eyes sting after using it for a long period of time but not bad.


Lucky Phil - July 22nd, 2012 at 03:05 PM

Ahhh. No settings on mine. So It's a cheapie then.
I don't use it that often so it's hard to justify the cash for a new one.
There again, New eyes are harder to find!
The bit that really gets me is when the wire hits the job repeatedly instead of arcing up and the screen cannot keep up.
If I remember to trim the wire every time it's better. That would make the screen too slow.


whathaveidone - July 22nd, 2012 at 04:15 PM

My mask has grinding or welding,delay,sensativity & din adjustments.works really well. just wasnt wearing it when i got got


HappyDaze - July 22nd, 2012 at 06:54 PM

Wearing a pair of sun-glasses [wrap-around type the best] under your mask helps prevent flashes. It's a bit like wearing a seat belt.....hopefully you will never need it, but when when the accident happens, you will be glad you wore it.


1916baja - July 22nd, 2012 at 07:35 PM

How you goin now Ben?


Special Air Service - July 22nd, 2012 at 07:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by HappyDaze
Wearing a pair of sun-glasses [wrap-around type the best] under your mask helps prevent flashes. It's a bit like wearing a seat belt.....hopefully you will never need it, but when when the accident happens, you will be glad you wore it.


Even clear safety glasses worn under your shield, or during tacking etc will do wonders to prevent accidental flashes.

I wear them doing pretty much everything I do in the shed


whathaveidone - July 22nd, 2012 at 08:25 PM

left eye still sore. Not stinging like i thought it would. maybe just a very mild case.sleep did wonderes


toey1984 - July 23rd, 2012 at 10:31 AM

as a boiler maker, most of us wear clear glasses with grinding shild and still look away as the shild will only slightly prevent sunburn.
best idea for next time if you want to keep your vision to its best would be to bug a good known brand auto welding helmet, ( as cheap ones will still flash you )
on a budget get a cigweld!,
got a few hundred ( better than going blind slowly ) get a speed glass
( oh and clear eyes help to re hidrate your eyes, so try to keep that up and you will feel better sooner)


silver - July 23rd, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Unlucky mate. it would have to be one of the most painful experiences I have had.
I rubbed Aloe vera in mine straight from the plant soothed the pain a bit


Klaus - July 23rd, 2012 at 09:48 PM

bugger ben , i've been welding almost everday for the past 12 weeks on the dc and the good old "Aldi " auto mask has worked freakin awesome great adjustability and no flashing , its when your face peels from not wearing mask is a pain too


h - July 24th, 2012 at 12:07 AM

bugger had that once or twice.. no joy


Stanley - July 24th, 2012 at 08:38 PM

Got a welding flash walking passed somebody welding some years ago in innisfail. Woke up at 1am like someone had poked me in the eye with a hot stick. Had to drive myself to the hospital with niagra falls in one eye. Almost crashed due to depth of field issues driving with one eye closed. Never again

On another note was in the shed last night tig welding an exhaust and noticed that my staffy was sitting there watching the bright light. She seems OK luckily.


retroresto - July 25th, 2012 at 01:53 PM

Its bloody painfull thats for sure. i bought a cheaper auto mask that would always fail to darken when i used the mig, so thinking that the miracle of sight is probably worth more than a 100 bucks i shelled out on a top of the line auto mask with allthe adjustments etc. Same issue, too unreliable. Solution? went back to the old normal always black mask, never had a problem since.

Cheers


AndrewB - July 26th, 2012 at 12:25 AM

I have had an issue with my auto helmets on a few occasions now, when im tacking or welding in odd places or up under something and the arc isnt in line with the thingy on the helmet.. surprise-flash :lol:
Have had some nice peeling on my shoulders too.


vlad01 - July 27th, 2012 at 10:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by HappyDaze
Wearing a pair of sun-glasses [wrap-around type the best] under your mask helps prevent flashes. It's a bit like wearing a seat belt.....hopefully you will never need it, but when when the accident happens, you will be glad you wore it.


good ideal, i used this one some times.


vlad01 - July 27th, 2012 at 10:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AndrewB
I have had an issue with my auto helmets on a few occasions now, when im tacking or welding in odd places or up under something and the arc isnt in line with the thingy on the helmet.. surprise-flash :lol:
Have had some nice peeling on my shoulders too.



perhaps u need one with X mode :dork:


vlad01 - July 27th, 2012 at 10:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Stanley
Got a welding flash walking passed somebody welding some years ago in innisfail. Woke up at 1am like someone had poked me in the eye with a hot stick. Had to drive myself to the hospital with niagra falls in one eye. Almost crashed due to depth of field issues driving with one eye closed. Never again

On another note was in the shed last night tig welding an exhaust and noticed that my staffy was sitting there watching the bright light. She seems OK luckily.


really? you got flash burns from walking past someone welding? Wow thats sensitivity :spin:

I have to be flashed several long exposures at point blank range before I notice and burns. Maybe I am used to it now :lol:

only time I had serious burns was from using an auto mask, once or twice I got very minor burns from not using a mask at all when tacking. Oh the irony!

You realize how stupid you are when u are very young :lol:


DubbyDo - July 28th, 2012 at 02:38 AM

We have Speed Glass helmets at work, do a great job....... when you remember to turn it on:crazy:also no good if a vehicle with a strobe light on drives past.
Funny that none of our Boilys use them, they prefer the standard cheap arse BOC black helmets with Miller Auto Darkening Lenses in them, nice and light.
Heard a lot of guys using the milk remedy so must be of some use


vlad01 - July 28th, 2012 at 01:15 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by DubbyDo
We have Speed Glass helmets at work, do a great job....... when you remember to turn it on:crazy:also no good if a vehicle with a strobe light on drives past.
Funny that none of our Boilys use them, they prefer the standard cheap arse BOC black helmets with Miller Auto Darkening Lenses in them, nice and light.
Heard a lot of guys using the milk remedy so must be of some use



yes speedglas is a great helmet as well as the miller digital elite.

I haven't got one yet, looking at the digital elite in the future. I have got an old Italian TIG welder but looking at selling it and going for a micro series from Everlast coz it has very simple controls but has the essentials that my old school TIG doesn't, like HF start AC balance and few useful stuff like that.

I am getting very sick of using my crap ass arc welder. Its really cramping my style :fakesniff: its not powerful enough.