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Calcool - July 24th, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Just Brilliant!


bajachris88 - July 24th, 2012 at 02:47 PM

I don't know if i like it hey. I been waiting and watching the development of the Toyota 86 (or brz, what ever you want to call it) for years now with excitment from my other facet (toyota) when rumours were going around on the forums of a new celica, some others calling it a supra, before they dubbed it the 86. now that its out and far less exotic as the prototypes appeared, all i can see is a bmw/german ass with a honda s2000 front and no distinctive new-ness as such. Toyota was always ahead of its time back in the day, developing curves on bodies when generic cars still were boxes in the early 90's, now it just seems like they are too conservative and on the safe side by being 'generic' as opposed to outstanding or redefining. Even the MR2 was unique and outstanding, yet for the masses.

I find its like being told you won the lottery, only to find its more like $2 on a scratchy (excitement then let down). Hope that makes sense? IMHO.

None the less, its nice to see toyota re-establishing their sports car range.


gerggl - July 24th, 2012 at 03:09 PM

A Scirocco any day!


rose - July 24th, 2012 at 03:49 PM

would look better in red


1303Steve - July 24th, 2012 at 07:10 PM

Hi

I love these cars, they are a future classic, how many cars on the new car lot could you think about calling a future classic.

With the sometimes newer VW reliability issues these make more sense.

Steve


Gracey - July 24th, 2012 at 07:33 PM

A great drivers car apparently.
I think their awesome, however a little conservative on the styling.


waveman1500 - July 24th, 2012 at 08:44 PM

The BRZ is a bit expensive at $37k, I hear that the Toyota 86 GT version starts from $29,990. A brand new RWD manual sports car for that price is fantastic value and I'm sure they'll be good reliable cars. They look like good fun to drive, and with a direct-injected four cylinder they'll be pretty reasonable on fuel as well. What's not to like? The only thing you could ask for is more power, 147kW isn't all that much in a sports car.


homer - July 25th, 2012 at 05:39 AM

A mate of mine picked his Toyota 86 up from the Gold Coast last week. It has Subaru stamped on most of the body panels and on the engine cover. I know its a joint venture but it would be good if they had no stamping or Toyota on them. It also has a pipe running from the engine bay into a flap going to the firewall which makes it sound like sports car from inside the cabin while driving and from outside it is quiet.


ClockworkMonkey - July 25th, 2012 at 08:11 AM

I like this car ..... but the things that annoys me most about it is the fact that they try to capitalise on an iconic car but they never seem to do it justice. This car should of been a balls out monster with more aggressive styling, a bigger engine and a turbo option would be nice too.

Seems a little soft just like so many of the cars coming out these carrying the badges of legends. They should take a leaf out of the GT-Rs book...


Calcool - July 25th, 2012 at 09:46 AM

Scirocco looks different but check the price at $15k more and the performance comparisons! It is quicker but it also does have a turbo! Completely different car!

The AE86 that came to Australia was not much more than a different bodied rear wheel drive Corolla, it was not until a couple of years later the 4AGZE engine came in a Corolla then put that in a Oz spec AE86 and you could start having fun!

Different specs for Toyota Gt and GTS and BRZ so different pricing too!

Great drive, I just wish there was less traffic and more roundabouts so you can enjoy the handling, well sorted and although 147KW seems low. Given the lightweight and great balance of the car it is a true drivers car. It is surprisingly quick.


Yogie - July 25th, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by homer
It has Subaru stamped on most of the body panels and on the engine cover. I know its a joint venture but it would be good if they had no stamping or Toyota on them.



A lot of Porsche owners think the same thing when they see VW stamped on parts in their cars too.:lol::lol:

Yogie


rose - July 25th, 2012 at 11:42 AM

sounds like you work for subaru :lol:

Quote:
Originally posted by Calcool
Scirocco looks different but check the price at $15k more and the performance comparisons! It is quicker but it also does have a turbo! Completely different car!

The AE86 that came to Australia was not much more than a different bodied rear wheel drive Corolla, it was not until a couple of years later the 4AGZE engine came in a Corolla then put that in a Oz spec AE86 and you could start having fun!

Different specs for Toyota Gt and GTS and BRZ so different pricing too!

Great drive, I just wish there was less traffic and more roundabouts so you can enjoy the handling, well sorted and although 147KW seems low. Given the lightweight and great balance of the car it is a true drivers car. It is surprisingly quick.


waveman1500 - July 25th, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ClockworkMonkey
I like this car ..... but the things that annoys me most about it is the fact that they try to capitalise on an iconic car but they never seem to do it justice. This car should of been a balls out monster with more aggressive styling, a bigger engine and a turbo option would be nice too.

Seems a little soft just like so many of the cars coming out these carrying the badges of legends. They should take a leaf out of the GT-Rs book...


What are you talking about? The original AE86 was never a 'balls-out monster'. They had a naturally-aspirated 4AGE with less than 100kW. It was a fun, affordable sportscar, which is exactly what this new car is trying to be. They were meant to be fun to drive, not outright fast, just like a Mazda MX-5.


bajachris88 - July 25th, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Beyond a doubt, the concept looked far better. far less 'vanilla' and generic.

http://autocarlovers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Toyota-FT-86-Black.jpg

http://cdn3.worldcarfans.co/2011/3/2/medium/13940501191546517075.jpg


MickH - July 25th, 2012 at 01:04 PM

Yeh Chris....but it lacked the "Hairdresser appeal" so they had to simplify it......


bajachris88 - July 25th, 2012 at 05:52 PM

:lol: :tu: