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65 beetle seat belts in rear dealer option?
XXX-1.8T - July 31st, 2012 at 10:07 PM

Is it true rear seat belts in 1965 beetles were a dealer option?

If so is it true there are holes drilled from factory for seat belts under seat for lap sash?

Any one got pics of og seat belts?


68AutoBug - July 31st, 2012 at 11:32 PM

Yes
saw a 64 model yesterday and it still has the plastic plugs in the rear for lap sash on the sides and would have head them for the lap belt in the centre..

the original type belts were just lap in the front... have seen them but they were an option..
can remember being in a car with them...

My father bought a new beetle in 64 with no belts...

all the lap belts did was keep You in the seat if the car is rolled..

It is odd that front was lap only yet the rear was lap sash on the ends
??
I can remember the buckle being square and the push button release was in the centre with a white VW sign with a blue background.. the excess belt was on the door sides [from memory] outer sides.. both sides could fall on the floor
when not used...

early seat belts were made from a harder material than those used now and they did not wear or fray..
wasn't soft and bendy like new seat belts that do fray on the edges making them illegal..

LEE

anyone know when belts came compulory ??
and lap sash belts?


grumble - August 1st, 2012 at 06:05 PM

Sorry Lee provision for sash belts only in the front and rear,no centre belt as they are 4 seater.My 67 1300 still only had sash belts in the front.The 63 Type 3 1500's had a lap belt as you say that was a coarse webbing and fell on the floor and out the door when you exited.


68AutoBug - August 1st, 2012 at 11:56 PM

That was a guess as Mine has 5 seat belts...

and My Dads 64 had none just plastic screws...

LEE


Phil74Camper - August 2nd, 2012 at 07:52 AM

Australian Volkswagens were fitted with seat belt mountings as standard from the 1962½ model onwards, which appeared halfway through 1962. Volkswagen was the first Australian manufacturer to fit seat belt mount points to their cars. Holes were not 'drilled'. They were stamped that way, with hefty screwed fittings welded in at the production stage. There was one on each B-pillar (level with the bottom of the window), two on the central tunnel behind the handbrake, two under the rear seat in the centre, and one at each rear corner. The factory fitted each mounting point with white plastic bungs and washers. Australian-made Britax lap and shoulder belts were available as dealer accessories but were not fitted as standard.

In 1967 Volkswagen Australia fitted the Britax belts as standard, but the body shells still only had two mounting points for each of four people - a shoulder and lap belt only. There is a photo of the front seats and belts in the 1967 Australian brochure.

Modern 3-point safety belts weren't fitted until the modernised European 12-volt CKD body shells that were fitted after 1968. The factory used Volvo-style belts and buckles, as the Melbourne plant also assembled Volvos after 1968.

http://www.clubvw.org.au/history003 
http://www.clubvw.org.au/austvw001 


XXX-1.8T - August 2nd, 2012 at 10:08 AM

Thanks Phil!

Anyone got pics of oem pre 67 seat belts as i would like to know what they look like?

Also anyone have pics of the Britax versions?


vw54 - August 2nd, 2012 at 03:37 PM

I have 3 point belts in my 65 front and back much safer and they dont look out of place as there Britax type


XXX-1.8T - August 2nd, 2012 at 04:55 PM

Are they modern Britax or old school ones?


vw54 - August 2nd, 2012 at 06:03 PM

old school stainless steel buckles


XXX-1.8T - August 2nd, 2012 at 08:44 PM

Where can I get some from Dave ?


vw54 - August 2nd, 2012 at 08:53 PM

you will have to find origional buckles n get the re webbed

Talk to VVDS


XXX-1.8T - August 2nd, 2012 at 09:21 PM

Where do I find the buckles?


XXX-1.8T - August 3rd, 2012 at 10:31 AM

Phil and Dave are these the ones you speak of?

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j2/marcellodanielle/P2270720.jpg


vw54 - August 3rd, 2012 at 04:21 PM

yep similar


XXX-1.8T - August 3rd, 2012 at 04:37 PM

got pics?

where can i get some from?

Would Boris have any?

i want Lap ones please :)


XXX-1.8T - August 7th, 2012 at 01:22 PM

BTW i just checked my front VW seat belts and on the back of them they say B - W.

Anyone know what it stands for or who made them?


XXX-1.8T - August 7th, 2012 at 02:50 PM

i found these seat belts on Ebay and they come with dual airbags :yes:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-r_Twsyq9Ao4/T8x7_CZdbaI/AAAAAAAAE9g/i5C2rwdaO7Q/s1600/takata.jpg