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1956 VW Oval Beetle........Hervey Bay QLD
Lukeandleah14 - April 26th, 2011 at 02:48 PM

Hello all.....

We have joined this forum as we have a 1956 VW Beetle that has been passed through the family for the last 30 years and it's now at the end of the line.

It has 82,000 miles, new upholstry, CD Player, 12 volt.

I can't put an exact price on it but we're just putting it out there to see what offers it attracts.

Bug is located in Hervey Bay, 3 hours north of Brisbane.

If you require any specific photos, please let me know.

Call, text or e-mail lukeharvey5@bigpond.com 0439 723 832


ian.mezz - April 26th, 2011 at 03:17 PM

is it brown???


Lukeandleah14 - April 26th, 2011 at 03:30 PM

The actual colour is maroon but sometimes it looks brown depending on the light it's in.

Thanks for your interest


bushed - April 26th, 2011 at 06:08 PM

is eng and chassis etc orig and matching still as the bumpers blinkers etc are updates from much later models.
pure oval only parts means it would be worth more esp with gd semaphores


Lukeandleah14 - April 26th, 2011 at 06:40 PM

The chassis is original and so is the engine but it's been rebuilt about 4 years ago.
If anyone has an idea of what this bug is worth, please let me know.


bushed - April 26th, 2011 at 06:48 PM

u need to talk clear info
rego, tyres rwc incl??
radio/cd??
what size and age engine type and age of exhaust
non synchro 1st gear???
any rust
decklid seems from a convertible / nice but not std
so if u have indicators wrkin in pillars and orig taillites still then the value could go up anothr $500


twoguns - April 26th, 2011 at 06:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bushed
is eng and chassis etc orig and matching still as the bumpers blinkers etc are updates from much later models.
pure oval only parts means it would be worth more esp with gd semaphores


ive looked at this car on carsales, and the strange thing is is that it doesnt have semaphores!

http://liveimages.carsales.com.au/private/carsales/11786530.jpg

so is it an import and at some stage had soem modification work re updated lights or steering change? or is it not a true oval?


crsedge - April 26th, 2011 at 07:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bushed
decklid seems from a convertible / nice but not std



Deckild isn't convertible as the grills would be smaller and vertical, rather than large and horizontal, thus grills are retro-fit into a W-lid.

Cheers

Craig


Lukeandleah14 - April 26th, 2011 at 07:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bushed
u need to talk clear info
rego, tyres rwc incl??
radio/cd??
what size and age engine type and age of exhaust
non synchro 1st gear???
any rust
decklid seems from a convertible / nice but not std
so if u have indicators wrkin in pillars and orig taillites still then the value could go up anothr $500



I'm sorry for not providing all the details...

Vehichle is currently registered in QLD until July
CD player as described
Apparantly it's an 1800cc engine
Not sure about what exhaust it is
Not sure about the first gear
There's no rust
No'one can remember when the indicators were were changed

Sorry for being vague......I just don't know a whole lot about them.


Pumba - April 26th, 2011 at 07:34 PM

Someone might have welded up the semaphore holes,looks like the doors are 60s doors???
cheers shane.


Lukeandleah14 - April 26th, 2011 at 07:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by twoguns
Quote:
Originally posted by bushed
is eng and chassis etc orig and matching still as the bumpers blinkers etc are updates from much later models.
pure oval only parts means it would be worth more esp with gd semaphores


ive looked at this car on carsales, and the strange thing is is that it doesnt have semaphores!

http://liveimages.carsales.com.au/private/carsales/11786530.jpg

so is it an import and at some stage had soem modification work re updated lights or steering change? or is it not a true oval?




When we aquired the car it didn't have semaphores but have been told that it probably did at some stage.

I really don't know the history of it before 1980...


Paulc1964au - April 26th, 2011 at 07:45 PM

If you look at this 54 that is for sale for $10K I would say yours is closer to 4K

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=89905 


LUFTMEISTER - April 26th, 2011 at 10:02 PM

wrong doors
wrong bumpers
no semaphores
wrong tailights
wrong indicators
ruined engine lid
wrong steering wheel
engine ? floor pans?
3 to 4k


flipflopsurfer - April 27th, 2011 at 10:12 AM

I have to say that Luftmeister is close to the mark, I would say 3k ish. Whether or not the car is a solid runner, the appeal of an oval is not only the rear window, but all the right bits, like rear lights and semaphores. To put that right would cost a fair amount, getting rid of the vents, opening the semaphore holes, repairing the wings, getting lights, etc. The B posts don't look wide enough for semaphores to me or is it an optical illusion?


Joel - April 27th, 2011 at 10:32 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by vwmad
Someone might have welded up the semaphore holes,looks like the doors are 60s doors???
cheers shane.


Its not unusual to see bogged over semaphores, people used to try and update bugs to make them look newer like this one fitting later guards, bumpers, lights etc some ovals and splits even had bigger back windows grafted in :lol:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_m_nMEp5-kMQ/SYyxo0qH_GI/AAAAAAAAAL8/yh-y4GxeSsE/s400/4631601.jpg

In the 80s and early 90s when carrera kits were big it was normal to see 60s bugs fitted with 70s gaurds, bumpers, lights, bonnets and decklids/whale tails


Lukeandleah14 - April 27th, 2011 at 08:22 PM

Thanks for your help everyone. Any further info or price suggestions would be great!


big_ash - April 28th, 2011 at 10:26 PM

It's not original there is not enough pillar For the semaphores.


bushed - April 28th, 2011 at 10:34 PM

so then why does the front windscreen look like an oval one (smaller)

maybe seller can measure the screen
the later doorhandles or doors will fit the 56/7/8 ovals

Quote:
Originally posted by big_ash
It's not original there is not enough pillar For the semaphores.


zayus - April 28th, 2011 at 10:41 PM

Guys,

It is a 50 + year old Beetle!

Maybe, just maybe, it has has some updates or modifications applied? :dork:

Pfff


matberry - April 28th, 2011 at 11:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by big_ash
It's not original there is not enough pillar For the semaphores.


What you been smok'n???


Sunset Garage - April 29th, 2011 at 12:21 PM

Perhaps it's originally a private import from a country with RHD's and US specs. The Yanks had bullet indicators on their Ovals. Perhaps Canada before they switched over? or some of the northern European countries which switched over during that period from RHD to LHD like Sweden?

Frankly I can't remember all the dates and all my VW books are packed up in boxes, but it could easily be an oval with no semo's. Maybe it has had a LHD-RHD conversion? Lots of interesting embassy VW's have come out of Canberra over the years, mostly LHD.....


Granto - May 2nd, 2011 at 01:14 AM

just a newb guys and know it's not fool proof but so the owners have some confidence in what theyre selling does the forum have the info to work out year/place of manufacture etc from the ID plates and the number stamped on the tunnel under the rear seat? excuse it if its a stupid question i have a 56 oval bodied beetle that was very heavily modified in the early 80's by a previous owner and also own a very original old classic ford coupe so I get the whole unmolested value thing but from a vw newb viewpoint this guys car with those original miles looks like its worth more than $3k to me? even modified ,just my opinion but i appreciate there would be good deals offered thru the forum and the knowledge you guys have


flipflopsurfer - May 2nd, 2011 at 06:44 PM

Personally, it's not that it's been modified, but how it's been done. Finding a decent decklid and snowflake lights would be hard and expensive, also it has good paint, but welding up the indicator holes and that air scoop would ruin a fair bit. Also no semphores on show.
The vin plate you posted, is it yours? VW1/11 designates it as Beetle 2 door, standard model, LHD.


captainvw - May 2nd, 2011 at 06:47 PM

Ebay will give you a true indication of what people are willing to pay, can be scary letting an auction run though. Almost as scary as the self proclaimed experts trying work out what you have ,entertaining though i must say
Good Luck with the sale


LUFTMEISTER - May 2nd, 2011 at 08:00 PM

Yeh listen to the self proclaimed Ebay expert and sell it for 99c. :smirk: Good Luck with the sale.:cool:


farkengruven - May 2nd, 2011 at 08:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by flipflopsurfer
Personally, it's not that it's been modified, but how it's been done. Finding a decent decklid and snowflake lights would be hard and expensive, also it has good paint, but welding up the indicator holes and that air scoop would ruin a fair bit. Also no semphores on show.
The vin plate you posted, is it yours? VW1/11 designates it as Beetle 2 door, standard model, LHD.


WRONG :no:
All ovals had 1/11 embossed (not stamped) on them from the factory. The car also has the MKA number stamped into it....Aussie only


flipflopsurfer - May 2nd, 2011 at 10:00 PM

I stand corrected, I saw the MKA stamp. If that's the case, where does the model designation appear e.g 112 115 etc?. Looking at the early Bentley manual it states all those different models.


Granto - May 2nd, 2011 at 10:59 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by flipflopsurfer
Personally, it's not that it's been modified, but how it's been done. Finding a decent decklid and snowflake lights would be hard and expensive, also it has good paint, but welding up the indicator holes and that air scoop would ruin a fair bit. Also no semphores on show.
The vin plate you posted, is it yours? VW1/11 designates it as Beetle 2 door, standard model, LHD.


Yep its mine, you had me goin for a minute on the LHD thing,would have been interesting.
Thanks also farkengruven for clarifying, I've learnt some things.


captainvw - May 3rd, 2011 at 07:21 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by LUFTMEISTER
wrong doors
wrong bumpers
no semaphores
wrong tailights
wrong indicators
ruined engine lid
wrong steering wheel
engine ? floor pans?
3 to 4k




Quote:
Originally posted by LUFTMEISTER
Yeh listen to the self proclaimed Ebay expert and sell it for 99c. :smirk: Good Luck with the sale.:cool:


first you talk his car down Samba style then make out like your helping him out :lol:

Stick it on Ebay and set the reserve sky hi or pull it before the auction ends that will give you a better indication then some of the Flippers on here


t_tuffnut - May 3rd, 2011 at 12:58 PM

Just gotta find the right buyer I guess. It may not have all the right bits as sought by the purists, but it still looks good to me. The engine probably has some poke and the paint looks OK. I'd buy it at 4K if I had the money and space.