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Fuel filter replacement

Yogie - February 8th, 2013 at 01:38 PM

My beetles plastic fuel filter is leaking (good thing it is not in the engine bay). I bought a new one from Super Cheap Auto and it is a lot larger than the one on there (maybe 50% bigger) and I was wondering if anyone can see a problem with using the bigger filter.

Yogie

barls - February 8th, 2013 at 04:22 PM

only that its in the engine bay.

AA003 - February 9th, 2013 at 02:50 AM

Only that the fittings will stretch your hoses.

Get one from Mick Motors or VVDS etc.

bugzla - February 9th, 2013 at 06:42 AM

if you can use a efi filter they are better but better putting it under the tank away from the motor a 1/4 " filter number z199

Joel - February 9th, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Problem with the metal EFI filters and alot of cheap plastic ones is they are 1/4" barbs and stock VW fuel lines and hose is 5.5mm

1mm may not sound like much but the bigger 1/4" hose really need to be clamped down hard for a good fit which it not ideal and using 5.5mm VW hose which is fairly thin walled on 1/4" barbs often makes it split in not much time.

Yogie - February 9th, 2013 at 03:50 PM

Can you fit the glass filters from earlier model beetles and will they last longer?

yogie

ian.mezz - February 9th, 2013 at 04:28 PM

you just need this type, chip as chips and once it looks dirty just replace it
buy them at repco, autobarn super cheap etc about $5

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal-Fuel-Filters-Petrol-Diesel-Car-Marine-In-...

psimitar - February 9th, 2013 at 06:47 PM

dunno what hose people are using but I just got some from either supercheap or Clarks rubber. Proper double rubber skin with cotton intermediate braiding.

Then some proper stainless fuel hose clips and not jubilee clips and then a $2 plastic filter above the gearbox.

All slides together with good fit over the solid fuel line and filter and nip up the fuel clips. If using that cotton outer braid type hose then that isn't great stuff really.

Anyhow, that's what I used and had no trouble with it what-so-ever

AA003 - February 13th, 2013 at 05:38 AM

The one on the right is the correct filter.

[img]http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Universal-Fuel-Filters-Petrol-Diesel-Car-Marine-In-line-/22/!CF(rV+wB2k~$(KGrHqZ,!i4E1MLRQcsWBNU1y,7Yhg~~_12.JPG[/img]

I really cant understand what the problem is with the people on this forum. Why buy the wrong part and make it fit when the correct filters and fuel hose are cheap and easily available.

Supercheap, Repco, Bursons etc do not sell VW parts. Mick Motors, Vintage Vee Dub, Volksbahn and VW dealers do.

AA003 - February 13th, 2013 at 05:41 AM

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Originally posted by Yogie
Can you fit the glass filters from earlier model beetles and will they last longer?

yogie

What glass filters?

Yogie - February 13th, 2013 at 07:55 AM

There are new empi ones
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C13%2D9104
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C13%2D9065

or something like these in an older style
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1377241

Yogie

psimitar - February 13th, 2013 at 11:31 PM

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Originally posted by AA003
The one on the right is the correct filter.

[img]http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Universal-Fuel-Filters-Petrol-Diesel-Car-Marine-In-line-/22/!CF(rV+wB2k~$(KGrHqZ,!i4E1MLRQcsWBNU1y,7Yhg~~_12.JPG[/img]

I really cant understand what the problem is with the people on this forum. Why buy the wrong part and make it fit when the correct filters and fuel hose are cheap and easily available.

Supercheap, Repco, Bursons etc do not sell VW parts. Mick Motors, Vintage Vee Dub, Volksbahn and VW dealers do.

Mate, it's fuel pipe. So long as it's the right diameter and of good quality then you don't have to faff around finding a VW shop :crazy:

AA003 - February 14th, 2013 at 06:26 AM

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Mate, it's fuel pipe. So long as it's the right diameter and of good quality then you don't have to faff around finding a VW shop :crazy:

Where do you get one to suit VW size hose then?

Supercheap, Repco, Bursons etc do not sell them.

psimitar - February 14th, 2013 at 09:59 PM

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Mate, it's fuel pipe. So long as it's the right diameter and of good quality then you don't have to faff around finding a VW shop :crazy:

Where do you get one to suit VW size hose then?

Supercheap, Repco, Bursons etc do not sell them.

All I know is I bought the pipe at either Supercheap or Clarks and the plastic filter at Supercheap. It's a snug fit on the solid fuel line and isn't overly stretched on the 1/4" barb of the fuel filter.

I made sure of all my measurements before I bought the stuff and so far it's been trouble free

I use VW shops for a majority of my Beetles parts but for something simple like the fuel pipe a bit of looking around should yield a result but if a VW shop is close to hand then I'd go there too but Micks is the other side of town and I don't do mornings

matberry - February 14th, 2013 at 10:48 PM

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good post

AA003 - February 15th, 2013 at 06:04 AM

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Originally posted by psimitarAll I know is I bought the pipe at either Supercheap or Clarks and the plastic filter at Supercheap. It's a snug fit on the solid fuel line and isn't overly stretched on the 1/4" barb of the fuel filter.

I'm just glad that you're not a tradesman.

Carry a fire extinguisher.

psimitar - February 15th, 2013 at 06:20 PM

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I'm just glad that you're not a tradesman.

Carry a fire extinguisher.

No I'm far far better than a tradesman cos things I repair and fix stay fixed unlike every QLD tradie I've ever had the misfortune of coming across.

modnrod - February 17th, 2013 at 09:06 AM

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No I'm far far better than a tradesman cos things I repair and fix stay fixed unlike every QLD tradie I've ever had the misfortune of coming across.

HAHA! How to win friends and influence people! :crazy:

Having said that, I agree. If the fuel line fits snugly, then it's fine.
I can agree with wanting to use genuine OEM VW fuel line too, on the basis that it might be better quality than cheap SuperOne stuff, except that VW fuel line was never anywhere near as good as genuine Mitsubishi braided line as one example anyway, and as we all know the OEM VW stuff has a tendency to split after a few years with engine bay heat cycling, so how good is it really?

Come on guys, it's just a question about a fuel filter, not the relative merits of 1045 pressed vs 4140 machined cranks........

AA003 - February 17th, 2013 at 02:21 PM

It's all about size.

VW is 5.5mm.

psimitar - February 17th, 2013 at 11:18 PM

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No I'm far far better than a tradesman cos things I repair and fix stay fixed unlike every QLD tradie I've ever had the misfortune of coming across.

HAHA! How to win friends and influence people! :crazy:

Thanks

I was giving advise from my experience for someone to use if they wished and then have someone who don't know me insult me by saying he's glad I ain't a tradesman.

Aside from the fact I've worked on cars since I was 6 and done most basic trade jobs you can think of so I do have a fair idea what I'm on about

Nice to hear there are some level headed people out there

AA003 - February 18th, 2013 at 06:10 AM

I just hate to see people getting bad advice.

psimitar - February 18th, 2013 at 11:22 PM

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I just hate to see people getting bad advice.

Seriously!!!! Do you like offending people?

I have as much experience as most mainstream mechanics out there.

So long as the pipe you buy is a good fit and has ISO and other certifications printed on the pipe then it is fit for use. Unless the motors factors buys quality stock then the cotton overbraided hose could easily come from China as the cotton overbraid generally doesn't have labeling printed upon it.

So please stop passing judgement on people you haven't ever met and if you think someones advise is bad then give a response that includes justified reasons as to why the advise is bad. :td:

matberry - February 19th, 2013 at 07:35 AM

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unlike every QLD tradie I've ever had the misfortune of coming across.

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So please stop passing judgement on people you haven't ever met

Pot calling the kettle black....FFS I've replced SO Much cheap incorrectly sized fuel hose it's not funny. It's worse these days as there are so many idiots with no real training saying things like 'it's ok, been doing it for years....blah blah' ....all over the interweb, so is's gotta be ok......right?.....like f@#k !!

And it's not just a case of....oh its only a fuel filter, what do think most Volksies burn to the ground from.......

AA003 - February 19th, 2013 at 08:32 AM

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if you think someones advise is bad then give a response that includes justified reasons as to why the advise is bad.

I thought that I did that?????????????

Yogie - February 19th, 2013 at 10:48 AM

Just thought I would let you know, I bought a universal filter from leons along with some hose and fitted it on the weekend and all is now good.

Yogie

psimitar - February 19th, 2013 at 10:08 PM

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unlike every QLD tradie I've ever had the misfortune of coming across.

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So please stop passing judgement on people you haven't ever met

Matt, it's a case of experience and knowledge. I have used my ability to judge whether parts are durable and well made over many years to fix many things, not just cars, and those things have stayed fixed for decades.

If you know what you are looking for and have an idea how to correctly fit things then you should be fine. If you are a noob then ask more questions so replies can have more detail to help you. Everyone has to start learning somewhere.

If the filter is fitted either under the fuel tank or above the gearbox then you won't have a fire. If you place it in the engine bay with incorrect jubilee clips and piping then you will eventually have a fire.

When it comes to old vehicles you either need to have enough money for a respectable mechanic to look after your car or you learn quickly to fix things yourself. If you try to bodge it or you aren't sure of how to do something properly but give it a go anyway then you 'will' become a cropper.

So blah blah I think I should be good with the repairs I've done. Check my resto thread to see