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1916cc, should I turbo or not worth it?
REAP - May 6th, 2013 at 01:10 PM

Hey guys, I was digging through my garage and I found an old turbo setup that was on my 1600 show car. My new car is a 62 beetle with a 1916 pobjoy motor. I still have to dig through a heap of boxes and find all the piping/exhaust for the turbo but what im wondering is if its worth while fitting the turbo. There is a performance car company near me that does turbo setups for cars, thinking about trading them my ute in exchange for them fitting up this turbo. I know nothing about turbos so this is all new to me. The turbo is a IHI VR-1. Only looking to run around 4-5 psi so I dont have to change the compression. What are your thoughts on this?
Cheers!

Blake


Bizarre - May 6th, 2013 at 06:15 PM

I am guessing you would need to change a few of the internals.
Guessing it is a non CW crank and a non turbo cam(??)
Don't think it is a bolt on and drive

I would just drive and enjoy


cnfabo - May 6th, 2013 at 06:32 PM

i would ring stan and have a chat to him..

fabo


REAP - May 6th, 2013 at 06:33 PM

The car it came off had a stock 1600 motor and ran for a good 15-20 years like that. I didn't think it would be an issueif iIran low boost?


bajachris88 - May 6th, 2013 at 06:50 PM

Read this, its an article based on three cam profile trials with turbo (stock, mild, wild). not vw but the theories are the same.

http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles/ccrp_1209_the_turbo_cam_shootout/viewall...

Your stock cam can be used, overlap not an issue.
non-CW crank not an issue at low rpm, only a problem with eccentricity at high rpm.
Thus, if small turbo, spool comes on early (thus boost early), power band is down low which compliments your stock cam shaft and keeps the rpms at a safe range.
Low psi like what you have suggested that will suit cast internals for 1600cc, for a 2ltr i can't tell you whether it would survive or not. I'll let the pros make the call.

Extra heat is inevitable. This is heat at the heads, not in the oil (and thus additional oil coolers won't do much to assist). Doghouse cooler setup will keep typical hot spot #3 cylinder cool with improved air flow, ensuring good fuel mixture will keep temps down. Also ensure dissy timing is strictly limited in boost to prevent detonation/pinking and make sure all tinwear is present. CBperformance have a distributor you can tune for that applicable with changing springs for mechanical advance.

great thing about turbo's is you are only on boost when you want to be (IE: when you have your foot down and your at the rpms suitable for spooling) So its not like you will be boosting all the time and building up extra heat during your drive, unless you are racing).


barls - May 6th, 2013 at 07:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by cnfabo
i would ring stan and have a chat to him..

fabo
leave a couple of hours free for stan to chat


Jimmy Wackburns - May 6th, 2013 at 09:56 PM

It sure is worth going turbo. Have a look at the different options like blow through vs draw through, different carbs you could use or even EFI. There are several suitable turbos available for a 2L engine these days which might be a better option before rebuilding your VR-1. If you already have the whole set up, it shouldn't cost much for a professional shop to get it going for you. Best to keep the turbo & pipework out of the engine bay for a daily driven car. Have a chat with Stan about compression ratio, rings, cam, oil lines etc. Plan to beef up the rest of the driveline somewhere down the road.

Jimmy