converting 64 beetle to discs
x275 - May 14th, 2013 at 10:19 PM
Hello,
Just wanted to find out the cheapest way to convert a '64
beetle to disc brake front end.
All advice much appreciated.
Cheers,
Conan
vwo60 - May 15th, 2013 at 08:00 AM
You can buy a bolt on conversion in wide 5, it will require the master cylinder to be changed to dual circuit one, a legal requirement, then you will
be required to have it inspected and the mod approved. depending were you are it could be fitted with a mod plate. Nothing is cheap if you do it
correctly.
x275 - May 15th, 2013 at 12:33 PM
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Nothing is cheap if
you do it correctly.
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This is true, I just want the least expensive while still safe.
1303Steve - May 15th, 2013 at 12:56 PM
Hi
The system that Vintage Vee Dub sells is pretty good, its not Chinese junk like other people sell.
Steve
PS I beat Birchall
sander288 - May 15th, 2013 at 02:08 PM
cost can also be dependent to a certain extent on what PCD you're after. the wide 5 brakes are typically more than others
x275 - May 15th, 2013 at 03:54 PM
I'll give them a buzz then.
Cheers.
vwo60 - May 15th, 2013 at 09:25 PM
allow some money for the compliancing
x275 - May 16th, 2013 at 09:45 PM
Does anyone know roughly how much the compliance will cost ?
Cheers
psimitar - May 16th, 2013 at 10:50 PM
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Originally
posted by 1303Steve
Hi
The system that Vintage Vee Dub sells is pretty good, its not Chinese junk like other people sell.
Steve
PS I beat Birchall
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But the rotor is not seperate from the hub so much more expensive for future maintenance costs.
As for the OP. Why do you wish to go disc brakes? Do you have a hi-power engine or wish to drive the vehicle hard on twisty roads or track days?
Reason I ask is that a well maintained Drum system is perfectly adequate to haul a Beetle to a standstill.
Are you having a lack of performance from the vehicle or are you more used to driving a modern everyday car compared to the Beetle? A lot of people
find Beetle brakes not as responsive as a modern car and hence why they think it needs upgrading.
Just a few questions to ask yourself as could end up saving you a wad of cash cos wide 5 disc brake kits are far more expensive than having to update
a later 4 stud Beetle plus you have to show the engineer you wish to use for the blue plate the kit you wish to buy as if they don't like it they
won't ever sign off on it 
psimitar - May 16th, 2013 at 10:51 PM
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Originally
posted by x275
Does anyone know roughly how much the compliance will cost ?
Cheers
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$120/hr is the average but you have to pay some their travel time too at the same rate.
hrastovica - May 18th, 2013 at 02:51 PM
Regarding compliancing, do we have to do the same in Victoria?
psimitar - May 18th, 2013 at 11:13 PM
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posted by hrastovica
Regarding compliancing, do we have to do the same in Victoria?
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Depends on Vic transports modification rulings but every state says that wheel adapters/spacers are illegal and so apart from Vintages design all
others use a plate to allow the fitting of the wide 5 wheels. This means it's down to an engineer to agree the plate is a permenantly mounted part of
the disc conversion and sign off on the modification.
Unfortunately every engineer sees things differently as it's their interpritation of the ADR and NCOPs. If you ever move state the blue plate could
well mean nothing in the new state you live in.
x275 - May 19th, 2013 at 12:12 AM
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Originally
posted by psimitar
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posted by 1303Steve
Hi
The system that Vintage Vee Dub sells is pretty good, its not Chinese junk like other people sell.
Steve
PS I beat Birchall
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But the rotor is not seperate from the hub so much more expensive for future maintenance costs.
As for the OP. Why do you wish to go disc brakes? Do you have a hi-power engine or wish to drive the vehicle hard on twisty roads or track days?
Reason I ask is that a well maintained Drum system is perfectly adequate to haul a Beetle to a standstill.
Are you having a lack of performance from the vehicle or are you more used to driving a modern everyday car compared to the Beetle? A lot of people
find Beetle brakes not as responsive as a modern car and hence why they think it needs upgrading.
Just a few questions to ask yourself as could end up saving you a wad of cash cos wide 5 disc brake kits are far more expensive than having to update
a later 4 stud Beetle plus you have to show the engineer you wish to use for the blue plate the kit you wish to buy as if they don't like it they
won't ever sign off on it
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Reason I was asking was the car I was looking at for my partner has front drum brakes. I had never driven an all drum brake car so I had just assumed
it would pull up like a tug boat..
But I was wrong it pulled up ok.. So I don't think I would need to do the conversion.
Cheers
psimitar - May 19th, 2013 at 02:13 AM
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Originally
posted by x275
Reason I was asking was the car I was looking at for my partner has front drum brakes. I had never driven an all drum brake car so I had just assumed
it would pull up like a tug boat..
But I was wrong it pulled up ok.. So I don't think I would need to do the conversion.
Cheers
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Cool. Glad you found the brakes to be good.
May still be an idea to check the system over and pull the drums off to make sure you have no weeping cylinders and check the brake shoe linings and
inner drum surfaces. Check the flexi lines for cracks etc
Flush thru with new brake fluid and then you know your wife has a nice safe vehicle to drive