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Wide 5 Wheel Nut size??
Lateral - June 2nd, 2013 at 01:26 PM

Hi guys

Lucky I decided to check to make sure that the spare wheel that the car has can actually be fitted to the car!

I was concerned that the tapered wheel bolts that are used to fit the Escra's onto the front disc and rear type 3 drums (they both have spacers fitted) would be too long....well, looks like I was correct as they tapered bolts hit the internals of the rear drum and the disc calipers.

The spare wheel is a standard VW wide 5 wheel and fits nicely in the spare wheel bay.

I have attached a photo of the existing tapered bolt. The length of the thread is 24mm and the diameter is 12mm.

Can somebody tell me the thread length of a "standard" wheel bolt? I assume that they are "radius" bolts as opposed to tapered bolts.

Ideally, I need the length to be long enough to fit with the spaces on or I can cut them down if they are too long.

Thanks
Regards
Greg

bussboy - June 2nd, 2013 at 02:04 PM

incorrect wheel nut for a standard wide 5 wheel(either beetle or bus) Should be a ball seat, get 5 standard bolts and keep with spare.

psimitar - June 2nd, 2013 at 08:32 PM

nah, radius is for Porsche. Early Wide 5 use a 90 degree taper and the one in photo is 60 degree by looks of it.

Bolt should be M12x1.5 pitch and no more than 15mm of thread.

Do note tho that any bolt should exit any plate it is bolted into by at least 1.5 threads for correct torquing of the bolt and it not working loose. Mainly a recommendation for short threaded bolts and not longer ones as more surface area creates more friction to hold bolt in place.

Lateral - June 3rd, 2013 at 06:53 AM

Thanks mate

bussboy - June 3rd, 2013 at 07:07 AM

Nope wrong again wide 5 use a ball seat nut not a taper nut. Thread size is right for bug,type3 but bus uses m14 x 1.5. Google ball seat nut and look at images to get an idea.

Lateral - June 3rd, 2013 at 07:11 AM

Thanks bussboy.

ancientbugger - June 3rd, 2013 at 09:10 AM

While on the subject where can I buy some (standard,short VW wheelbolts) as I could certainly do with some spares

Lateral - June 3rd, 2013 at 04:03 PM

I just went to Vintage Vee Dub Supplies and got 5.

Regards
Greg

psimitar - June 3rd, 2013 at 10:11 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by bussboy
Nope wrong again wide 5 use a ball seat nut not a taper nut. Thread size is right for bug,type3 but bus uses m14 x 1.5. Google ball seat nut and look at images to get an idea.


Well can't say I looked at em that close but as I've been playing with such things lately they looked tapered to me.

Apologies if i got that wrong.

benny_acko - June 17th, 2013 at 04:58 PM

On the topic of wheel nuts - what is required for Raiders? I presume that I can't use the standard Wide 5 wheel nuts?

Thanks,

Ben.

psimitar - June 17th, 2013 at 06:14 PM

Depends on the seat in the wheel and the thickness of the wheel mounting area.

Seat dictates the type of bolt n thickness dictates the bolts thread length.

An alloy should these days come with a hardened steel insert where the wheel bolt goes as the flat style wheel bolts aren't widely used these days. Check supplier if not fitted with these tapered steel inserts.

bussboy - June 17th, 2013 at 07:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by benny_acko
On the topic of wheel nuts - what is required for Raiders? I presume that I can't use the standard Wide 5 wheel nuts?

Thanks,

Ben.



What on? Bus is 14mm and bug 12mm thread size.