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Crooked motor - beetle with 67 gearbox - Crooked Motor
jackthepom - June 3rd, 2014 at 10:59 AM

Hey guys
I recently put a 67 beetle gearbox in my 61 then fitted a 1600 twinport motor.
Since doing so the motor sits crooked in the engine bay, the tinware has about 2-3mm clearence from the body on the driver side. But the passenger side has about 10-12mm clearence.
I have been told to change the nose cone on the gearbox but dont knkw the definite solution!!
Please help!

vduboy - June 3rd, 2014 at 12:06 PM

Check your gear box mounts make sure they aren't torn/damaged, Got any pics?

jackthepom - June 3rd, 2014 at 01:34 PM

Box has been reconditioned
all mounts are new etc

Camo - June 3rd, 2014 at 04:23 PM

Frame horns could be bent or the rear of the body.

Kev

Stanley - June 3rd, 2014 at 08:57 PM

There is a bit of clearance in the mounting holes usually from wear. I'd say if you loosen everything off you'll be able to realign it.

vwo60 - June 4th, 2014 at 06:18 AM

Check the gearbox is on centre, did the original engine sit in the centre of the engine bay, some times you have to loosen all the body bolts and move the entire body over if everything else checks out ok.

jackthepom - June 4th, 2014 at 10:28 AM

Everything was okay until I replaced engine and gearbox

REDKG - June 4th, 2014 at 07:34 PM

as they said, loosen ALL gearbox mount bolts and maybe the mount frame across the horns..You may need to use a jack and bars to move the engine.

matberry - June 4th, 2014 at 09:02 PM

Was it a split case non synchro first gearbox originally?

Governor - June 4th, 2014 at 10:25 PM

Silly question but did you grind the box out for the flywheel?

jackthepom - June 4th, 2014 at 10:40 PM

No I didn't
I bought the box from a guy who had it running in a 67 with a 1600 twin port

Governor - June 4th, 2014 at 11:01 PM

I only ask because if the flywheel isnt sitting in the box correctly the engine might not be mated to the box?

matberry - June 5th, 2014 at 09:49 AM

Was it a non synchro box that you swapped out?

psimitar - June 6th, 2014 at 07:56 PM

Get the rear up on axles stands and lay under the gearbox so you can see if the gearbox sits parallel with the framehorns and if the engine has properly mated to the gearbox.

This will let you know where the issue lies as could be gearbox mounts or could be the engine not seated properly.

Easiest way to find out really :)

matberry - June 6th, 2014 at 08:40 PM

He's been told to change the nose cone, my guess it's a '60 or earlier chassis with a crash box. The mounts and horns vary and adapting the later box isn't always easy.
Have a look where the gear selector goes into the hole in the pan. It should line up in the middle of the hole and another area to check is that the axle tubes have plenty of clearance for the boots. It's a good indication that everything is in place.

psimitar - June 6th, 2014 at 09:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by matberry
He's been told to change the nose cone, my guess it's a '60 or earlier chassis with a crash box. The mounts and horns vary and adapting the later box isn't always easy.
Have a look where the gear selector goes into the hole in the pan. It should line up in the middle of the hole and another area to check is that the axle tubes have plenty of clearance for the boots. It's a good indication that everything is in place.


Ah, I didn't read all the replies. Yea, later box in early chassis will require early kombi nosecone or the chassis mount cutting off and relevant mount for his gearbox welding on.

Deadpan - June 8th, 2014 at 06:00 PM

You have already got a few possible outcomes from suggestions,mine would be if everything is correct and the engine is already out of the bug,pull out the gearbox and then see if they bolt up