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Wide Rear Smoothies - where to get them

ACT65Deluxe - May 7th, 2015 at 09:13 PM

Hi All

Just wondering if anyone knows where I can source some rear rims around the size in this pic.

Cheers

Clem

psimitar - May 8th, 2015 at 09:50 PM

Guy on Ebay sells sets of professionally re-rimmed VW steels. he may be able to go bigger but he mainly uses Holden 6 inch wide rims and then welds Vw centres into them

If you can't find a rim that is as wide as you want that is factory made then I'm afraid banded steels are illegal in Oz.

bussboy - May 8th, 2015 at 11:06 PM

Dont buy wheels that have modified hoops (Banded) this is an old school practice which is not safe, new hoops for beetle wide 5 wheels are available in 6 inch 7 inch 8 inch 10 inch. In other word useing your centres and new wheel hoops fitted. Go to a recognised wheel works to get them built.
15 x 7 newly built

scoopsta - May 9th, 2015 at 08:48 AM

bussboy where did you get yours from im after a pair of 15 x 6's and how much?

modnrod - May 9th, 2015 at 10:20 AM

They look cool!
How do you go for wheel track width? Do you normally have to change to short axles or does the extra 1.5" or 2" of offset fit OK under the guards usually?
Great look though, one of my favourites.

Oh, and I fixed this bit (just a personal opinion, no offence intended)........

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Originally posted by bussboy........ this is an old school practice which is not safe..........[color=Wheat]when done by aNeanderthal who doesn't know s%!t from clay and is only out for a quick buck.[/color]

psimitar - May 9th, 2015 at 12:04 PM

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Originally posted by scoopsta
bussboy where did you get yours from im after a pair of 15 x 6's and how much?

Guy on Ebay does 6 inch wides in both wide 5 and 4 stud. Sells a set of 4 for $950 and they are certified so shouldn't be any legal woes.

psimitar - May 9th, 2015 at 12:06 PM

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Originally posted by modnrod
They look cool!
How do you go for wheel track width? Do you normally have to change to short axles or does the extra 1.5" or 2" of offset fit OK under the guards usually?
Great look though, one of my favourites.

Oh, and I fixed this bit (just a personal opinion, no offence intended)........

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Banding is safe if done properly. The companies in the Uk and europe that do this use a twin head welder at 180 degrees to each other with auto rotate related to the wire spool speed. Quite fun to watch in practice

bussboy - May 9th, 2015 at 02:33 PM

Dont want to start a pissing contest but why would you band a wheel when hoops are available ?

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psimitar - May 9th, 2015 at 06:07 PM

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Dont want to start a pissing contest but why would you band a wheel when hoops are available ?

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If they are freely available for the size centre you have then brilliant but if not then banding is the only other way. Of the rims I know fit a VW centre will be Commodore and pre 1990 Jaguar. I think there's one more but I can't remember it.

Oh and cutting down a centre to fit the rim isn't a great idea as the centre to rim load point goes from a flat section to a point.

adlbeetle66 - May 9th, 2015 at 06:23 PM

I've got 15 X 6's that will be going on my bug...
Bought them off gumtree! Look out for Buggy / Baja wheels, often they can be 15"... :blush:

modnrod - May 9th, 2015 at 07:58 PM

I'd love to run them on my L bug.
I rekn the wide smoothies would suit the "extra mature curves" pretty well. :smilegrin:

I wish someone made them in 4 x 130, still with older hubcaps. I would just buy them and throw them on, I probably wouldn't even weigh them first.
*sigh* Yeah OK, I probably would weigh them........ :lol:

psimitar - May 10th, 2015 at 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by adlbeetle66
I've got 15 X 6's that will be going on my bug...
Bought them off gumtree! Look out for Buggy / Baja wheels, often they can be 15"... :blush:

Are you sure they're 15? Those centres look like 14 centres. If the diameter from the very outside edge is 15 then they are 14s and if closer to 16 then they are 15s. Tyres are measured from the inside of the sealing edge and not the outside edge of the wheel.

psimitar - May 10th, 2015 at 01:17 PM

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Originally posted by modnrod
I'd love to run them on my L bug.
I rekn the wide smoothies would suit the "extra mature curves" pretty well. :smilegrin:

I wish someone made them in 4 x 130, still with older hubcaps. I would just buy them and throw them on, I probably wouldn't even weigh them first.
*sigh* Yeah OK, I probably would weigh them........ :lol:

4 x 130. Isn't that Porsche 912 or maybe 914 steels?

adlbeetle66 - May 10th, 2015 at 01:39 PM

Here is a pic that was on the original ad... :?:

I bought a whole lot of 14's once, the guy said they were 15's so i jumped at them... :blush:

adlbeetle66 - May 10th, 2015 at 01:43 PM

Does this make them a 15"........... :?:

psimitar - May 10th, 2015 at 07:09 PM

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Does this make them a 15"........... :?:

Yup, that's a 15. It's either got a 14 centre or a cut down 15 as the curved section of a 15 centre is larger than those. I wonder what rims they used? Holden, Ford or something else to get the 6inch wide rim?

adlbeetle66 - May 10th, 2015 at 07:34 PM

Not sure... the guy was putting 7 inch wides on his :lol: :rolleyes:

bussboy - May 11th, 2015 at 07:56 PM

Mate when you get them shoot a pic of the inside.
Cheers

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Originally posted by adlbeetle66
Here is a pic that was on the original ad... :?:

I bought a whole lot of 14's once, the guy said they were 15's so i jumped at them... :blush:

adlbeetle66 - May 11th, 2015 at 08:42 PM

Yup.. when i next remember i will!!

adlbeetle66 - May 16th, 2015 at 06:20 PM

Here ya go.. :blush:

bussboy - May 16th, 2015 at 07:07 PM

Yep centre has been machined down to fit the hoop, all good.

adlbeetle66 - May 16th, 2015 at 07:11 PM

Thanks :smilegrin:

psimitar - May 17th, 2015 at 10:13 PM

personally I prefer a hoop that fits the centre properly but so long as the run-out has be made minimal then they'll be OK.

The welding however doesn't look fantastic but hopefully it got good penetration.

adlbeetle66 - May 20th, 2015 at 05:25 PM

Yes, hopefully, will see how we go... i think i will know when the welds break :blush: :dork:

psimitar - May 20th, 2015 at 06:57 PM

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Yes, hopefully, will see how we go... i think i will know when the welds break :blush:

Not exactly something to joke about if it's a front wheel. For safety I'd grind those welds flat and then get a professional welder to run a new bead of weld. Or wire wheel the paint of the centre near the weld and on the tyre side of the rim where the weld runs. From this you should still be able to see the heat pattern left by the weld and hopefully some weld pool that had started to break through to the other side. That's if they didn't dress the weld on that side of the rim.

adlbeetle66 - May 20th, 2015 at 09:09 PM

Was joking... thats the prob with this forum, you can't see peoples faces after they have typed something...
Its the rear wheel, and yes, will definitely be investigating before use

psimitar - May 20th, 2015 at 11:40 PM

That's cool man. I just don't like the less knowledgeable getting stiffed by someone who is ok with selling inferior parts.

Those people make bad joo joo.