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Extractors
jenz58 - October 12th, 2002 at 09:59 PM

OK, the reason the muffler and tail pipe is so low on the new Type 3 is because it has extractors.

The car runs brilliantly and gets a good speed up.

How much more petrol does a car use having these on?

I'm sure I will start a debate happening here, but are they worth keeping on (it does look ugly though)

Jen


70AutoStik - October 12th, 2002 at 10:21 PM

Shouldn't use any more petrol - in fact, you should get a slight increase in economy. The usual advice on fitting extractors is that you should go up one size in your main jets, but the type 3 seems to work quite well without it.


jenz58 - October 12th, 2002 at 10:25 PM

OK thanx

Someone told me yesterday that they do use more petrol. It did seem fine today on fuel, I'll watch and see.

How do I improve the look from behind?


70AutoStik - October 12th, 2002 at 10:53 PM

Bit of a prob: there are (or were,)extractors designed to tuck up under a type 3, but as far as I know, they produce less power than a stock exhaust. If you've got the bucks, or a talented and capable friend, you could do the old tuck the muffler beside the tranny trick...


jenz58 - October 13th, 2002 at 12:00 AM

How much power would I loose changing it back to standard exhaust?

I'll sit on it a while, have spent enough on car for now, but I can still think about options, it doesn't cost to plan ahead.


The_Bronze. - October 13th, 2002 at 08:42 AM

If you get people, Particulary those with cameras, to stand closer it wont be as noticeable. Reversing into your driveway and carparks and generally stick to driving at night.

These are the best suggestions I can offer since my mechanical knowledge is limited. These are all relatively cheap options I've realised too.

Bronze.
Hope this has helped some.


jenz58 - October 13th, 2002 at 05:54 PM

I took the pic :)

I'm sure as with all things I'll get used to seeing it and not notice. Will get rid of the wiring, I don't see myself needing to tow anything


70AutoStik - October 14th, 2002 at 01:00 AM

Sorry so long to reply: The peak power you will lose going back to a stock exhaust would not be great probably 2-4HP, the great benefit of a good extractor system is the gain throughout the rev range and especially at about (usually) 2-2500rpm - which you'll probably realise is where you need it most. As for it's visibility: the police shouldn't care, as extractors are legal unless they create undue noise, and the minimum ground clearance for your car is (from memory) 10cm. For the rest - most people think extractors look cool on anything.


jenz58 - October 14th, 2002 at 11:14 AM

Well they are not noisy and once that wiring is gone it should look neater at the back.

Must admit it has a bit of power on an open road which is great for a long trip. It holds the road well to in winds, less tiring on a long trip.

Looks like I have me a great car for taking a holiday in :) Sweet


KruizinKombi - October 14th, 2002 at 06:31 PM

Jen, keep the extractors until they need replacing, then go stock is my suggestion. Yes the extractors do sit lower usually, but yours seems to be even lower than mine.

Don't cut the wiring out straight away, I'd like to have a look and see if we can either hide it or make the visible bits removable. That way you can still tow if ever you need to. :thumb

Are you bringing it over for a visit soon? :D


jenz58 - October 14th, 2002 at 08:21 PM

Thought for a minute that you had left town. Have you been out in the shed?:D

Yep I can bring him down for a visit. Next three weekends are volunteering and cruising. After that?

He runs great :thumb

Think he could be bi 'cos I sometimes say she ;) So used to Bel - she this and she that etc

Feeling guilty when I leave Bel home. Had better keep the tow gear, maybe I can hook on a big trailer and take Bel along for a ride:D

(don't you hate it when you leave a vital word out)

[Edited on 14-10-2002 by jenz58]


mhbourke - October 15th, 2002 at 10:30 PM

Nice t3 have not seen one in that colour before.but the exhaust is horrible!Try finding a local muffler place that will make a new flange off extractors angled up a bit more and a smaller muffler(baffled hot dog) my t3 is 1972 and at the range of photo you can't even see it;)


jenz58 - October 15th, 2002 at 11:11 PM

Excellent, thanx :)


KruizinKombi - October 18th, 2002 at 11:04 PM

I had trouble with the flange on my extractors because the plates they use to bolt the muffler assembly to the extractors are too thin and bend, allowing leaks between the bolts. I took it down to the local exhaust place and he cut the old one out and replaced it with a two-bolt 10mm plate flange assembly for $20.