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1967 Beetle Engine Capacity
SemperFi - October 15th, 2002 at 06:52 PM

Hey,
Just wondering if anyone could tell me how to find out which engine capacities were available on the 1967 Beetle in Australia? Trying to find out if I need an engineers certificate or not...


Bizarre - October 15th, 2002 at 07:21 PM

1300 was stock.

Know one would know if you whacked a 1600 in though.

I think the law allows a 15% increase with "self certification"


vw54 - October 15th, 2002 at 07:27 PM

Yeah 1300 was the common everyday VW Beetle sold
but the 1200 was also sold in 1967.
Barrys right you could wack some 1600 barrels on it no one would know these days

what is it your doing to yr car so you need an engineers cert ???


Che Castro - October 15th, 2002 at 07:59 PM

yeah the only way u could easily tell (other than measuring) it was a 1600 or something larger than stock is by reading the ID number in the rocker box floor, thats if they are using 1500 or 1600 head though.


type82e - October 15th, 2002 at 08:25 PM

the 67 1300 deluxe was actually fitted with a 1500 single port motor
marcel:thumb


68AutoBug - October 16th, 2002 at 12:39 AM

I don't think that is correct In Australia -Marcel.
in 1967 We had Australian Made VWs and the only engines Available were the 12oo Std and the 1300 deluxe, both -naturally- single port engines. The 1500 single port may have been available overseas but I don't believe they were in Australia until 1968. The 1966 & 1967 German Beetles were very different to the Australian made Cars & ALL of the changes in the German made 1966 & 1967 Beetles didn't arrive in Aust until the 1968 model....
There are many VWs registered with different size engines to the paperwork...
Most Motor Registry people don't know & don't care... :o:):(


vw54 - October 16th, 2002 at 08:25 AM

Marcel.
Yes you are wrong we did have 1300s in the Beetle, and 1500 engine came out in 1968 with the new models.

Kombis were fitted with the 1500 in about 1965.

Well if the person registering the vehicle knows VWs then they will see the different inlet manifold.

But hey do like i did when registering my car the ORANGE SMOOOTHIEeee .... 1500 engines were available when the car came out in 1965.... i just didnt say that they were available in a Beetle.

[Edited on 15-10-2002 by vw54]


SemperFi - October 16th, 2002 at 08:31 AM

Hmmm... I must have run into the only ones that do care then. We took the car in for it's blue slip and the engine number was registered as a 1600 and apparently that is more than a 15% increase in power from the 1300... or so the RTA says anyway. They wouldn't pass the car without an engineers certificate. : (

Was hoping to find evidence 67's were brought out with a more powerful engine. Apparently if i could show they had the option of at least a 1392 then a 1600 would be less than less then 15% and they'd have to pass the car... I've already upgraded to disc brakes just for the engine...


Bizarre - October 16th, 2002 at 08:37 AM

Hmmm......something screwy.
Have a read of the Engineers certificate post where Wes has a link to RTA.

Says there a 15% increase in capacity - not output.

Have you put a 1600 twin port in or a single port?

Either way if you have put the dual port hards on just tell em its a 1300 twin port :D


Monsterbus - October 16th, 2002 at 09:01 AM

When I got my 62 blue slipped they got the engine capacity based on the case number. Mine has a 1300 case with 1500 barrels and heads etc. I even tried t get it registered as a 1500 but with no luck, they insisited because it has a 1300 case it must be a 1300. I want to get a late 1300 dual relief case to build up my 1776 or 1916 and then all I have to do is get the engine number changed.

Cheers
Steve

p.s it is based on capacity not power.


vw54 - October 16th, 2002 at 09:02 AM

Whats the engine number in full

does it have single or dual port heads fitted.

YEs you could say that the later 1300s fitted with dual ports look similar to a 1600.

Typical RTA my Audi 82 5 + 5 had down on the redgo papers that it was a 4 cyclinder 1600 engine and blind FREDDY could see that it had 5 cyclinders and was 2.2 litre.


68AutoBug - October 16th, 2002 at 11:56 PM

The Best one I heard about the RTA... a fellow took a Ford V8 to have the engine number changed - the original engine was a 6 cyl... A Young Lady came out of the RTA office with the owner of the car to check the engine number etc... and counted the spark plug wires.... 8... How come its got 8 wires??? "An old Rally trick... He told Her... 2 are for spares !!!"
this was about 8 years ago in the country... It must have been Her first week on the JOB.... I doubt if You could do it now..
Well ! the 5E Audi had a spare plug lead.. didn't it..!!:D:D:o


Phil74Camper - October 18th, 2002 at 05:45 PM

Yes the Australian-manufactured 1967 Deluxe Beetle had a 1300 engine. Aussie Deluxes first got the 1300 the previous year, 1966, when the Standard still had a 1200. In 1967 though, the last full of Aussie manufacture, the Standard was also fitted with the 1300. It was renamed that year to the 1300 'Custom'.

Aussies first saw the 1500 Beetle in 1968, when local production was shut down and the Melbourne factory went back to assembling German CKD kits. Some fully-built 1968 models were also imported that year. Manufacture of the 1300 Custom actually continued into 1968 for a short time, while the conversion back to CKD assembly was taking place.

Country Buggies were also available with 1200 or 1300 engines, but never 1500s.