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Rear end raising
Mad Manx - September 23rd, 2003 at 07:35 PM

Ok the question is: how high can the rear end be raised and are there an mods to increase the hight further eg clearancing the gearbox yoke etc

I have a type one swing axle rear end, currently I think it may be as high as posible- the spring plates are 5mm from the bottom stops (tyre end) under load and when my car (manx) body is jacked up the wheels only drop about 20mm.

My basic aim is to increase ride height with out going to bigger rims (15 inch now) and I was looking at air shocks but without modification to the suspension I don't think they will help.

Any advice and pictures of setups ect would be appreciated

Thanks ....Travin

daz67 - September 23rd, 2003 at 10:34 PM

Got any Pictures of your Buggy to share with us???

Brad - September 23rd, 2003 at 10:38 PM

The answer is NO , without changing a heap of stuff like going IRS or reduction hubs. It sounds like you are already to high. Without down travel you are gunna drive and handle like crap anyway.

Go IRS !!

Mad Manx - September 25th, 2003 at 07:15 PM

Mmmm there never seems to be an easy way out does there:(

As for IRS that is a one day- at the moment I'm far too lazy

Anyhow thanks very much guys.... I will try to post some pics of the buggy....

*did* - September 26th, 2003 at 10:39 AM

I like reduction hubs. They're good, because instead of the rear end squatting down when you floor it, it lifts up, pushing the wheels down into the ground, getting more traction.

Baja Wes - September 26th, 2003 at 10:53 AM

I'll disagree with the reduction hubs increasing traction. I followed a reduction hub buggy up a track on fraser and the rear end standing up and reducing the tyre contact point to the edge of the tyres didn't appear to be helping with traction.

IRS is much better.

Mad Manx - September 27th, 2003 at 09:06 AM

I agree with wes on that one- I have looked at fitting reduction hubs and even went so far as getting some but every one I spoke to tried to disway me with good reasoning- plain and simple they just arnt safe on a car designed for low un sprung weight.

*did* - September 30th, 2003 at 06:21 PM

Check it out. This is our mud racing buggy.
'67 Bus swingarm gearbox w. reduction hubs. Tractor tyres are the best!

*did* - September 30th, 2003 at 06:22 PM

it beats V8s!

Mad Manx - September 30th, 2003 at 07:54 PM

Geez- is that a volks powered hylux?

now I've seen everything- why the combination *did*?

Baja Wes - October 1st, 2003 at 10:05 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by *did*
Check it out. This is our mud racing buggy.
'67 Bus swingarm gearbox w. reduction hubs. Tractor tyres are the best!


Image how much better it would go with IRS, 3x3 lengthened arms, porsche 930 CV's :D

That's a pretty wild bit of gear. I guessing it has a fair bit of weight compared to a buggy. I notice what looks like a radiator, what's in the beast?

*did* - October 1st, 2003 at 09:57 PM

its a ford courier ute chassis, with a renault 1600 bolted to a 67 bus gearbox with reduction hubs. shortened chassis, custom rear to suit, full roll cage, tractor tyres on the rear.

our previous 2 were beetles, the 2nd had the same renault 1600 engine we run now.

*did* - October 1st, 2003 at 10:00 PM

ludwig 1

*did* - October 1st, 2003 at 10:01 PM

ludwig II

Mad Manx - October 1st, 2003 at 10:03 PM

mate thats not a rag top is it- hope ya interior isnt too flash- i can picture the mud now

*did* - October 1st, 2003 at 10:06 PM

well, ludwig I and II are gone now, all we have left is a door off each for the memories. yep they certainly did fill with water.