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Negative camber
lil bug - November 5th, 2003 at 09:48 PM

How can I get negative camber on the front end of a king and link bug... Is there a way or is Vernon destined to understeer now and then? :P

1303Steve - November 5th, 2003 at 10:15 PM

Hi

No you cant do it because the linkpins need to run parralel.

1302Steve

vw54 - November 6th, 2003 at 06:34 AM

Yes thats right

the best method is to pan swap or fit a ball joint front bulkhead and front end to your early chassis.

Craig Torrens - November 6th, 2003 at 01:56 PM

1 deg neg is about the limit before binding occurs. Increase your caster by putting some spacers between your front beam and the chassis (lower torsion tube), these can be purchased from our forum sponsors :thumb
This will effect the camber of the wheels when turning, when it is needed !

lil bug - November 6th, 2003 at 04:07 PM

Thanks... I thought I may be able to pack the bottom out with extra shims?

I already have castor spacers behind the lower torsion tube, this is to compensate for the change in attitude due to dropping the fornt end... I wonder how much I can increase the castor?

Thanks again guys.

vw54 - November 6th, 2003 at 06:42 PM

You only need to use the shims provided or else you get too much and a negative result.
Make sure they sit in the correct position on the torsion tube.

70AutoStik - November 11th, 2003 at 02:19 AM

You can increase your castor by 5 degrees or more (using longer bolts and stacked shims,) but it sounds to me like you might have another problem.

Check your bearings and bushes by jacking the car up and setting it on jack-stands. With someone to watch you (for safety - if the car falls off the stands, you want it removed as quickly as possible,) grab the tyres and give them a good waggle. If anything feels loose or rattly, chase it down and replace it. Look for obviously bent componentss. Check the steering dampner.

If none of these lead to anything, it might be time to seek out a professional. Make sure to tell him of all you have done - if he dismisses them all, you might want to look further afield.

vw54 - November 11th, 2003 at 06:20 AM

70AutoStik

Quote:

You can increase your castor by 5 degrees or more (using longer bolts and stacked shims



Sorry you can NOT do this as the suspension will bind. the King and Link are designed to travel up n down in one plane, stacking the shims will only make the suspension tighter and cause it to bind easier

lil bug - November 11th, 2003 at 04:53 PM

I know the ol king and link cannot get much neg camber... all the bearing and bushes are fine the steering dampner is new... there are no problems he just usdersteers a little when he is pushed through corners.

I'm just looking to improve the handling a bit.
Thanks for all the help guys :D

VWCOOL - November 11th, 2003 at 05:26 PM

wot tyre pressure you running?

Can't do much more than that to the old link pin jobbies - and the more you try, the more the spindly little suspension arms flex and wobble around

fullnoise - November 12th, 2003 at 12:09 PM

Get softer front shocks
Get stiffer rear shocks
Add a sway bar to the rear
Get stiffer rear springs
Increase front toe-out
Increase rear toe-out

CYA, CT

jakriz - November 12th, 2003 at 06:06 PM

Best thing to do is rip the beam off & put some struts in it.................or just buy a Superbug!
Jak

vw54 - November 12th, 2003 at 06:56 PM

NO NO NO Jak.... struts Yuk....

Just drive it and enjoy it